OT Is James Harden the best PG in the NBA?

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  1. 3RA1N1AC

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    No frustration whatsoever. I've even complimented you around here a couple times about not being the typical troll. You bring something to this forum. respect.
    I still think your boy is a POS flop machine though. lol.
     
  3. Mediocre Man

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    Bump.

    Another triple double vs the Spurs.
     
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    He's a ball hog imagine if he wasn't he'd average like 20asts instead.

    /sarcasm
     
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    D'Antoni is changing the Rockets to his version of the Suns. They score a lot of points, but they also give up a lot of points.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    What does that have to do with Harden's great play?
     
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    You don't think D'Antoni put him in a position to play like this with his teammates?
     
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    I think the Rockets pairing of Harden and D'Antoni is a perfect match...he's playing amazing as a pt guard on offense......somebody said he's better defensively but I disagree....he sucks on defense....still matador like....the team is playing better defense though, but that's not his doing
     
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    . Here's the difference though: Kawhi plays in an offense that relies on ball movement while the Rockets rely almost solely on Harden creating offense. Regardless of if it's through ISOs or pick n rolls, Harden is literally expected to create his own shot or another's every time down the floor. Same with Westbrook. When someone is in that situation, their stats are gonna be insane. To be able to do that takes a great player that can attack defenses very well. There's few that could, but if Westbrook, Lillard, and Kyrie were in the same situation and offense, I think theyd be putting up 30 and 10 as well.

    So while his stats are improved and look insane right now, is he that much better? I think it's a product of D'Antoni, shooters, and how much he's relied on, rather than improvements in his game.

    Take someone like Lillard. Nearly the same, but a more efficient scoring clip, but less assists. However, he plays in an offense that moves the ball, and is played off the ball a lot. He also give way to CJ McCollum a lot (for good reason), and doesn't have the shooters around him Harden does. Does all those circumstances that go into the disparity in Hardens and Lillards assist numbers make Harden better as a player? I'm not sure. Lillard has been more efficient and is certainly a better defender and locker room leader.
     
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    Some people just can't admit the guys a great player.
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Isn't there an official Houston Rockets fan boy page you could join....and take BGD with you....????
     
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    And proud of it!
     
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    Lillard may only average 5 apg but he's more unselfish than Harden and Westbrook. Lillard doesn't need every play to be about him.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    So because he plays for Houston we aren't allowed to appreciate how great he's playing?
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Yeah, on the Houston Rockets fanboy site. You tend to beat the Harden tub into the ground, just like you do your Leonard hate. We get it already. Move the f**k on....or, do the seemingly impossible and say something positive about the Trailblazers for a nice change of pace.....
     
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    You're catching on quick!
     
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    This pretty much sums it up...
    Great points.
     
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    Look at the big picture though man. :)
    Most of your posts are not about praising those you DO like on this team. They are about berating those you DO NOT like on this team. And then top if off with making a thread like this, which, I personally could care less about, but nonetheless, it does lead one to want to question the troldom. I know better, but perception is everything. :)
     
  19. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I'll try and channel my inner HCP and say .....

    Easy rook
     
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    I think there are enough Blazer fan boy threads started by the posi-trolls. A forum where everyone says the same thing, and has the exact same view on all the players would be a good thing to you?
     
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