Hey, Trump voters! Insult free, attempt-at-dialog thread

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    We're all stuck in this lifeboat together....now we just wait until the food runs low and find out who's the cannibal
     
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    I'm just getting started....bachelor night at the bungalow! I had a good garden this summer
     
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    What this sounds like is that you didn't disapprove of the statement, you just thought it might hurt him (because of the "politically correct"). Would you be okay if, now it obviously wasn't campaign suicide (well, at least in areas of the country where there are practically no Muslims, which seems to be where he was most popular), he actually carried out that policy? Or do you see something wrong with screening people by their religion?

    I missed this pivot. When you say "terrorist areas" do you mean Syria and Libya or do you include France, given the terrorist attacks they've had there? Also, it's pretty hard to narrow it down, isn't it? After all, Canada is letting in a lot of Syrians - couldn't they just come through Canada? If you really believe Isis is such a threat that a "shutdown" is necessary, doesn't his original policy make the most sense?

    But then, in all seriousness, he wouldn't be Donald Trump! He doesn't do "eloquent" - and isn't that his appeal?

    Or do you mean "less easy to interpret as racist"?

    Would you like him to speak directly to the KKK and say "hey - you misunderstood me as much as those PC guys - I'm not your friend"? Or are you happy with him keeping quiet and accepting their support because, hey, it's votes?

    Who's the "we" here? Again - see the KKK and the various White Nationalist movements. They really seem to be taking him literally. Are they just getting their news from the MSM?

    What are the major policies for you? Will you be mad if he doesn't build a wall, or was that just a metaphor for beefed up border security?
     
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    I was reading yesterday that immigration at the border has about half a million extradition cases pending....won't clear the courts until long after the next four years...they are over filled as it is and had to release a lot of Haitians to clear the border just days ago after security checks...I'm curious to see how the new administration plans to speed up the whole mess..we don't have facilities on the border to accomadate the traffic as it is...wouldn't that be more of a priority than a wall?
     
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    See. This is why the Germans were so much better at fascism than we can ever hope to be. The efficiency!
     
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    Milo using that term was actually the gays for trump movement. They would always refer to him as "daddy" to trigger the millennial progressives.
     
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    Wait, you asking why I think Trump won?

    Okay, let's start with who was opposing him. It was the left, media and D.C. Establishment. Why is that? Before anyone tries to throw the isms and ists out, remember that no one, except for Rosie, was complaining before he ran for president. Also, Reggie Jackson named him "man of the year" on his efforts for raising money and helping with the Black Association to Rebuild Harlem.

    So in a nut shell, he won on the backs of Americanism (only ism trump is guilty of). The Elites, even the right, completely ignored arguably the largest electorate that was desperately effected by the last 16 years of the globalist agenda. A good portion of them voted for Obama twice, which gives you an idea the electorate yearned for change.

    This same electorate represents a large voting block. This voting block represents the majority in the rust belt states, which is why he won Pennsylvania, Milwaukee, Ohio and Michigan. It's also the reason why he almost won Virginia and Minnesota too.

    The bottom line is jobs and economy. Hillary was using "I will keep Obama's legacy going" and also represented the status quo. Trump represented the change maker that has created tens of thousands of jobs as a private businessman.
     
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    Jeff Sessions also prosecuted many KKK members and actually fought and won against one to give him the death penalty as DA. He was also very pivotal is desegregating schools as well.

    I tend to judge a person on their actions, not words.
     
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    He was a billionaire before his kids worked 1 hour at Trump international.
     
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    Not really. There have been many businessmen that tried running for POTUS. Steve Forbes was considered a very successful businessman and failed in the primaries. He didn't have the pulse of the common people.
     
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    Spot on by the progressive liberal perspective. I would recommend you and whomever else reads this to demand their congressman to push this narrative. It will broaden the democratic tent.
     
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    did i miss any? i wasnt trying to be rude.

    id say most of his voters came from the "I don't have a retirement account and I'm old, this sucks."/ "my factory got sent overseas and this guy is saying that he will bring it back."/ "He's going to lower my taxes."/ "He will repeal Obamacare, I was paying a lot for it, I'm sure I will be able to afford insurance now." camps, but theres no denying the other camps voted for him as well.
     
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    No, you got all the generalizations of Trump supporters published by Occupy and other various liberal rags correct.

    Newsflash. Trump won a higher % of blacks, Latinos and other than white group than McCain or Romeny. Fact two. Trump beat Hillary on white college educated women. Fact 3: Trump flipped over 50 counties that Obama won.

    So as I said... just keep on keeping on with this straw man and hyperbole of labeling isms and ists. It's been working well for the democratic tent.
     
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    ooh i forgot one, "abortion is murder"

    i didnt vote for hillary, she can fuck off. im glad she didnt win.

    but newsflash. blacks and latinos can be concerned about insurance/ jobs/ taxes/ retirement/ gays/ abortion/ isis/ christmas/ guns/ etc., so that strawman doesnt jive with me.

    nowhere did i say that white people had a monopoly on trumps platform, it was you who implied that.
     
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    so seriously, did i miss any? i want your actual opinion, not defensive rhetoric.
     
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    I brought up the minority support because most of what you quoted was the typical stereotypes of Trump supporters being white. I've heard them all before on twitter and reading the liberal rags.

    That was a misconception of the majority of Trump's electorate. They were too afraid to outwardly show their support and made their statement at the ballot box. The most powerful form of protest.

    The only quote you need to put is "Americanism, not globalism will be our credo." The rest are pockets of outspoken Trump supporters. The media blasted them to build their fragile strawman against Trump. It obviously didn't work.
     
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    There is nothing to be defensive of. Trump won because of these stereotypes. I welcome it. I encourage it! This will guarantee Trump win his second term.
     
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    yes, obviously not. The DNC ran the face of corruption and business as usual, against an "outsider", at the absolute worst time to do so. they deserved to lose.
     
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    do you buy things made outside of america?
     

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