Like I said in another thread, Wade is probably one of the greatest penetrators in the NBA ever. And with the new rules, it helps him. I have no problem with it, and people say hes not THAT good cause he gets all his points from the foul line...but its still 27 points a night...I would take that. It seems people just want to hate on somebody.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Memphis Fan @ Feb 2 2007, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Like I said in another thread, Wade is probably one of the greatest penetrators in the NBA ever. And with the new rules, it helps him. I have no problem with it, and people say hes not THAT good cause he gets all his points from the foul line...but its still 27 points a night...I would take that. It seems people just want to hate on somebody.</div>great points there Memphis Fan. I have to agree with you on that one.
Theres no way LeBron should be suspended for this. God..These are little pussy fouls, big deal. It happens in basketball, Kobes was unintentional too..Neither of them should be suspended its just ridiculous to even be considering suspension.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cavsrules @ Feb 2 2007, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not blaming Wade, but I for sure as hell blaming the NBA and these ridiculous refs. Going 23-24 from the line, and shooting more Free throws then the other team, IMO, is ridiculous.</div>24 fouls shots. 24. let that # sink in. heres another #: 12. as in the # of TO's DWhistle had, and the # of times he had to of been fouled to shoot 24 FT's. that whole game was BS. Skrew D-Wade, hes so overrated cause hes "fouled" so much
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>http://youtube.com/watch?v=tWfTOl3bYgY</div>That's the foul? Doesn't look bad at all.I guess, for the first time in three years, Dwyane Wade actually earned two free throws.
Gotta love Wade's antics like looking like he got shot. The more I see Wade do this stuff the more I hate him. Easily the player I dislike the most in the nba.
Definately doesn't deserve a suspension. Bron was trying to wrap him up and Wade ducked at the last second. Pretty good shot across Wade's throat/jaw, though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Feb 2 2007, 02:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Although, if Stern gave him a 1 game suspension, I wouldnt be completley upset about it. Although Kobe didnt deserve a suspension, he needs to stay consistent.</div>Exactly...even though Kobe's suspension was a mistake you can't pick favorites.
Wait a sec... why is everyone convinced Kobe didn't deserve a suspension? Having watched the video how can ANYONE argue what he did was a natural shooting motion at all? Sides, it's not as if Kobe hasn't done similiar stuff before...Flagrant fouls often come with their own suspension attached. Class II Flagrants come with a one game suspension (much like Stackhouse on Shaq during the Finals) and are primarily meant to dissuade players from doing things that could inadvertantly cause serious damage to other players.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LAZY @ Feb 2 2007, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I didnt see it, so I really cant say much. But you cant single out Stern, theres more than just him that deal with suspending players. You cant call him an idiot, he wasnt even playing</div><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS">My sentiments exactly. I didn't see the hard foul neither.</span>
This is bullsh**. How is Kobe suspended for something unintentional like that and not LeBron. Both of these hits should not be suspended for and Kobe's should have only been a flagrant at worst. They suspended him for a game at Madison Square Garden where many fans wanted to see Kobe play but didn't get the chance to do so and booed when they found out. LeBron's foul was also unintentional as far as hitting his neck but cmon, if Kobe is going to be suspended for some bullsh** then there should be no bias with the rule. If Kobe gets suspended then so should LeBron. The league even ignored Kobe for an appeal and event he ENTIRE Spurs team said that it was unintentional including Ginobli and it clearly was. I just don't see how the league can be so unfair. It boggles my mind.
How the hell could you say Kobe's elbow to Ginobeli was not intentional? Are you f*cking serious? People need to get off Kobe Bryant's cock. The guy is such a liar in all his interviews about it. Of course Kobe's was intentional, he was shooting and all of a sudden his elbow JUST SPAZES out and nails Ginobeli right in the face...This, it's real hard to tell, it looks somewhat intentional, because of how far off he missed the ball...not really sure thoguh, hard to tell.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Feb 4 2007, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How the hell could you say Kobe's elbow to Ginobeli was not intentional? Are you f*cking serious? People need to get off Kobe Bryant's cock. The guy is such a liar in all his interviews about it. Of course Kobe's was intentional, he was shooting and all of a sudden his elbow JUST SPAZES out and nails Ginobeli right in the face...This, it's real hard to tell, it looks somewhat intentional, because of how far off he missed the ball...not really sure thoguh, hard to tell.</div>If you have ever watched Kobe get stripped or blocked etc he ALWAYS moves his arms out. It's a reaction, it's not like he took a swing at him. As I said, the maximum they should have done is a flagrant foul or fine.
No, Kobe deserved a suspension, and LeBron probably does too...but LeBron's is far harder to say if it was intentional or not. When you watch Kobe's slowed down, and spot shadowed on tape, he CLEARLY elbows ginobeli to the face. He was obviously frustrated that Ginobeli was playing tough defense on him and wanted him to "get off". He was trying to send a message, but once again Kobe shows no class in doing it.
I dunno if he meant to cold-cock Ginobli like he did, but the arm flailing he did is NOT a natural movement. I fully believe he wanted to shove Ginobli or something and hit him harder than intended, and I doubt he was going for the face, but I definitely think he was frustrated and was venting some of that. Ginobli's block stopped Kobe from winning the game, and Kobe definitely has a mean streak when it comes to winning.
Ya, the arm thing was kinda odd with Kobe. But he was also trying to get the foul. and what Ginobili did was not a flop. What about the TMac and Desmond Mason incident yesterday? Tmac looked kinda hurt after. And then Alston and Mason got ejected.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Feb 4 2007, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you have ever watched Kobe get stripped or blocked etc he ALWAYS moves his arms out. It's a reaction, it's not like he took a swing at him. As I said, the maximum they should have done is a flagrant foul or fine.</div>I know what you are talking about with him moving his arms out, but that was TOTALLY different. He moved one of his arms back and it happenned to nail Manu right in the face. I really think it looked blatantly obvious.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (falconman1130 @ Feb 4 2007, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dunno if he meant to cold-cock Ginobli like he did, but the arm flailing he did is NOT a natural movement. I fully believe he wanted to shove Ginobli or something and hit him harder than intended, and I doubt he was going for the face, but I definitely think he was frustrated and was venting some of that. Ginobli's block stopped Kobe from winning the game, and Kobe definitely has a mean streak when it comes to winning.</div>That is exactley what I think happenned. I dont know if Kobe intended to give Ginobili a black eye like he did, but he meant to harm him in some way. He was frustrated that he got blocked.Somebody on the first page said that he was losing his balance and that he accidentally hit him in the face. That is obviously not true. And others are trying to say that is a reaction to draw a foul? Please....with one arm that happens to hit somebody in the face. When you try and draw a foul, one of your arms doesn't mysteriously go back like that. If both of his arms went up, I would understand, but it was only one. It looked blatantly obvious to me....
