OT ...Trump...beginning of the end?

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  1. Lillie

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    This shit is funny...........Thanks Rob. :rotfl:
     
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    ...anybody else see through Trumps political gymnastics on the Carrier A/C company deal?...what a crock of shit.

    ...yet there are people who are praising him for it....talk about smoke and mirrors.
     
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    saved a 1,000 jobs <wink wink>, move on, nothing to see here.
     
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    ...so in lieu of penalizing companies for going overseas, Trump decides instead to give the companies tax breaks to stay in the US..

    ...don't think for a minute that other companies are not licking their chops knowing that all they have to do to get massive tax concessions is to make the threat of moving overseas...this means someone else with have to make up the difference, meaning us.



    ...Brilliant !
     
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    ^^^ I see this, in the same eye(s)....

    One major thing I've long feared about Trumpian Dream's for those Caviar Kings and Queens. Huge tax breaks, or throwing money at companies to stay in the US, is not going to repeal or fix NAFTA, of which Trump benefited from as much as any Tycoon. Our "Public Piranha's" (which Donald has been all his life), feed off of the public trough, get rich by sucking taxpayer's dry....

    The reason IMO, why Trump never has released his tax returns, and never will; (and to think he had the nerve to demand to see Obumantion's fake birth certificate, pfffukk)....:devilwink:
     
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    Another thing I've long watched and feared, (most of my working career) is this kind of shit. After public troughs are emptied, this kind of crap comes out in the wash, and becomes to often the norm...I hate to say it, pissing on my own employer's....!

    http://contractormisconduct.org/

    http://www.pogo.org/our-work/reports/2002/co-fcm-20020510.html#Top_43_Government_Contractors



    this has been some staggering shit over decades....

    The Project On Government Oversight's (POGO) research, continues rolling on, as corruption seem's to never end....
     
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    ...^^^yup...Carrier's parent company has multiple government contracts...funny how that works.
     
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    So we drain the swamp and fill it back up with another water source.... brilliant!
     
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    ....Mike Pence Indiana water.
     
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    stale political week, a bit of laughter......
     
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    That is hysterical!!
     
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    always like to start a day out with laughter, good to hear you enjoyed it.....:tiphat:
     
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    great choice for the job. With the Warrior Monk, Kelly, maybe Petraeus, the 3 Musketeer's are in place. With Kelly, I imagine taking a look into romper room's Kaleidoscope we see: shades of Gen. Patton, with a battalion of tanks, patrolling; securing the border. A state of the art human bug zapper laser fence will be installed, while Patton survey's the horizon like Geronimo once did......

    on a serious note, love Kelly's commitment to fighting Obuma over trying to close Gitmo. Sad to say, the world, the US, needs a Gitmo, war is not pretty, and as confusing as hell's environmental control systems.

    Kelly is a fairly young General (retired), 66/67 and should have a firm grasp for years to come. His battlefield and logistics skills, along with his bulldog approach; should lend assurance in a Natl. disaster, lord forbid....
     
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    ...yup, hopefully the liberal crap that we've been force fed over the last few years will be torn down. It seems that most of Trump's cabinet appointees are hard liners...something we've been missing.

    ...I'd really like to see much much much tighter requirements and restriction on government cheese and make regular drug tests a regular thing.

    ..also, let's restructure the farming programs because we've got so many farmers down hear who simply throw some seed in the ground and then walk away and file an insurance claim when the crop fails, which is precisely what they intended to do. (no irrigation, no planning no crop rotation, etc.)
    ...we refer to these type farmers as "insurance farmers" or "windshield farmers" because they don't really farm with intentions of succeeding, they plant cotton, peanuts, or soybean in the ground and then simply drive by and survey their crops through the windshield of those brand new $60,000 pickup truck they somehow seem to able to afford every year after getting a nice fat insurance check from the government...and this doesn't even count the Millions of dollars in farming equipment, pivot systems, herbicides, insecticides, and payroll for their laborers...well, needless to say, someone has to pay for this shit...guess who?


    ...sorry, but if you file an insurance claim on a failed crop for 7-8 straight years, you are either an incredibly unlucky farmer or you're too stupid to be a farmer in the first place...regardless, this sort of waste has to stop.
     
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    ^^^^^
    I couldn't of said this any better. I can relate quit a bit to this take, and problem looming over American Insurance Farmer's, and or Farmer's who are paid not to grow a crop that's an inflated one.

    I've seen, been on and several farms in Georgia, jn but a couple of short summers of the 70s, again in 96-97. I'm not well versed on the Agriculture of Georgia, as you are of course, 59...

    The majority of my paternal/maternal families, were farmers in Western KS, My father's generation, came out of those wheat fields, after 18 yrs of busting ass, while barely having time to complete high school. After H.S. most Farmer's kids of the 50's; found farming unsustainable, and left for a comfortable life in the cities; for Industrial work, eg Boeing, Beech, Cessna. Both my parents were raised on working farms, and had not as much probs during the depression, as city folks.

    All my life I've kept my eyes on Farming across KS. What I saw in the 60's became the norm, ie Small Farmer's with less than 100,000 acres, could no longer afford the combines, tractors, new equipment, let alone irrigation wells. Those who could not afford to irrigate, in a state that used/required little irrigation, fell prey to big Corporations. Today irrigation is the norm, while droughts continue to take there tolls.

    The Federal Farm Board; with their Conservation Reserve Program, and ARP, Acreage Reduction Program, have been handing out Federal Subsidies since 1929.

    After a couple years of failed crops, my GrandPa used his other skill, as one of H. Ford's first generation, of Certified Auto-Repair-Men. That and he switched to raising Livestock.

    Smaller KS Farmer's fell to huge Corporations, eg 'Carnation, Kellog, et al. Most of today's wheat grown in the Plains, are a result of big corp's and Govt subisidies.

    Wheat farmers are a major beneficiary of crop subsidies and other agricultural programs. According to U.S. Dept. of Agriculture data, from 1995 to 2012 the U.S. federal government paid over $39 billion in wheat subsidies, through direct payments (2003–present) and production flexibility contracts (1996-2002), deficiency payments, crop insurance, premium subsidies, price support payments (including loan deficiency payments, marketing loan gains, and certificates), counter-cyclical programs, market loss assistance, and other wheat programs. In 2012, wheat was the third most-subsidized crop, after corn and soybeans. Wheat farmers received $1.1 billion in subsidies in 2012. About the same amount that was appropriated per B2 bomber annually, per year during the 90s.
     

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