Sam Amico: Blazers have talked to Sixers about Noel

Well we'll just agree to disagree. There's not one thing about his D that would make me refer to it as very good lol.

 

If by meltdown, you mean party, yeah I can see it.

BNM

 

Please, oh please, oh please!!!!

BNM

 

Agreed. He has the worst DRtg on the worst defensive team in the league.

I suppose the good news is that means he has nowhere to go but up.

BNM

 

Being able to shoot from the mid-range doesn't mean you can create your own shot. Being able to hit on open shot off a curl screen isn't creating your own shot. Any competent player can take one dribble into a pull up jumper. (His height and release point allows him to shoot over NBA defenders, but that's not creating your own shot)

 

Call it whatever you want (I don't see how dribbling a ball into a pull-up isn't creating your own shot but whatever) there is no reason why Crabbe couldn't be a legit scorer on a team like Brooklyn. Look at how Klay has developed. He wasn't "creating his shot" until a year or so ago and still found a way to be lethal. There are plenty of guys that don't fall under your definition of being able to create their own shot that still find a way to be big time scorers.

 

LMAO No. 3 and more?? That's absurd. If they honestly think they can get that much value in return then Colangelo is out of his mind.

 

Dribbling into a pull up because a defender chased you off the 3-point line or jumped at a pump fake is different than one of CJ's pullup jumpers with a defender on his hip. The first is taking the open shot the defense gives you, the 2nd is creating your own shot.

 

You heard right. Just look at those numbers I posted in my previous reply. He is assisted on 86.1% of his made 2-pointers and 96.2% of his made 3-pointers. Those numbers are insane. Miles Plumlee, Meyers Leonard and Noah Vonleh are all more capable of creating their own shot than Allen Crabbe - a guy some people think deserves to be a stating SG in this league. I hope he is someday - for someone else.

What, exactly, has he added to his game since he came into the league four years ago? He's still more reliant on others to create shots for him than anyone else on the team. He's still the worst rebounder on the team and one of the worst passers. He still barely shoots above the league average on 3-pointers (his one, and only, skill). What does he do better this year than he did at this time last year (hint: the answer is nothing; last year was his career year and he was a barely average bench player). What does he do better today than he did two years ago (hint: again the answer is nothing, his advanced stats this year are virtually identical to what they were two years ago).

BNM

 

Probably just trolling Ainge, who's notorious for making crazy one sided offers.

 

Crabbe/Davis one two game was one of our most effective plays last season. Just saying that Crabbe can do more than just stand in the corner and wait for the ball.

 

That was at the draft, and after Simmons/Ingram the draft looked "meh"

I still think Philly values Noel highly but they have to understand that they are either getting a shooting wing and a pick or two OR a borderline all-star (but will have to send a high pick back to team with said borderline all-star). Those are the only two options for a big man with an injury issue and an expiring deal.

 

Yeah, he can stand at the top of the arc and take advantage of strong close-outs by defenders, after the ball is swung to him. Show me full highlights from a game where he had at least 2 FGs where he created them himself and not immediately off of a pass.

 

I'm aware of Stotts' system, thanks.

Doesn't mean he's limited to that.

 

If we somehow suck the rest of the year and aren't in playoff position, would you entertain the idea of C.J. for Noel and the right to swap our 1st round picks this year? (Assuming theirs is somewhere in the top 5).

 

How is it Stotts system? Lillard creates for himself, CJ creates for himself, Turner creates for himself... Even Harkless creates for himself now.

 

No problem.



3:47.

 

Using screens to get him open because he can't create openings himself, as he can't create his own shot.

Funny how I only saw mid range jumpers in there. If he could create his own shot he could surely get to the rim every once in a while.

 

Funny how you change your assessment of what he can't do as this thread goes on, but ok. I'm over his convo now.