Zombie So are there going to be any new laws about the handling of email for gov officials?

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    We all agree that how Hillary handled her email while Sec. of State was bad and/or illegal. Now we find out Russia was involved in hacking.

    Are we going to take any steps to make sure this doesn't happen again? Legislation? Laws? Executive orders?

    It's not just a single party issue. Bush and Chaney used email outside of the government.
     
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    Should all electronic messaging to and from government officials from what, the cabinet level and up, be only done on government issued devices?
     
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    So....

    The Hillary fan boys don't want a law because that would be the same as admitting she did something wrong.

    and

    The Trump fan boys don't want a law because it could come back to bit him in the ass.


    lolz
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Illegal for government officials to send or read email. Period. Problem solved.

    all classified communications via twitter.

    barfo
     
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    @Denny Crane and @blue32 I believe are both in the computer industry and both seemed to get obsessively pissed over the Hillary server thing. I just figured they would have some interesting ideas on how to prevent similar things from happening in the future.

    You on the other hand repeatedly said that Hillary didn't do anything criminally wrong so it's understandable why you think this is funny.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Not biting on the Hillary bait. I'm far, far too butt hurt to talk about her. I'm so butt hurt that my butt hurts.

    barfo
     
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    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    Thats not why your butt hurts......
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I slipped on the ice?

    barfo
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Hillary and her team should have went to jail over what she did; or at least faced charges. Any other person at the Government would have faced charges. But because Hillary has her cronies in certain departments nothing was done to her. So until you fix the corruption in the DOJ/FBI there isn't a damn thing to do to prevent blatant disregard for official policy/rules.

    Regarding the hacking... I am indifferent to it, because it showed the American people the type of blatant corruption going on in the Democratic party/Hillary. Also showed us that Podesta and his associates are sick fucks. You'll never stop 100% hacking/infiltration, so it's better for our politicians to be honest than corrupt.
     
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    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    Is that what older gentlemen call dong nowadays?
     
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    FAIL. Trump doesn't use emails. He totally runs old school
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    There's already a proper and safe system in place. Clinton explicitly defeated it.

    Government email should not be sent across the Internet. They have their own private wide area network that is secure from hacking. There is a room in the White House that is faraday cage secure so signals can't be detected outside of it. Signals like what's being displayed on screen, the electromagnetic going on between the computer's parts, etc. She was supposed to use that room and secured systems and did not.

    There has to be an air gap between secure government systems and the Internet. The two NEVER touch or interconnect and never should secure information be transferred from the secure systems to insecure ones. If the two systems do connect, that's the weak point where hackers can and will get in.

    Access to the government network from outside should be done over secure lines (e.g. phone, satellite) and with encryption and other security measures.

    This is why the government provides secure devices to those who need access to the systems. Obama wanted to use his Blackberry and the security teams actually built him a custom one at great cost.

    http://fortune.com/2016/06/10/president-obamas-new-smartphone-is-more-like-a-toddler-phone/

    The only risk is someone physically copying information to something like a USB drive and physically carrying it to some insecure location. For this reason, no Clinton or Clinton operative should ever have access to anything important. See Sandy Berger.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...d991d848c48_story.html?utm_term=.9d50ecae49f1
     
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    But he twitters.

    I doubt he stays away from using emails.
     
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    When I was in Naval Communications stations, we used about 80 codes to transmit securely from teletype to teletype through the air....seems if anything were top secret or sensitively classified, it would require encryption that is pretty hard to crack..the msgs printed on ticker tape and were shredded in burn bags and incinerated daily. probably harder than hacking an email...if it ain't broke?
     
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    Hillary fucked up by using her own server. I'll be the first Dem to say it, and had the FBI had said she should be prosecuted, I would have been behind that. I agree that there should be a law, though, and yes I would be saying this even if she were elected. Our country's top into needs to be protected more than ever, especially in the current geo political climate. Russia should have never been able to hack into either parties emails. I think then that during elections, the candidates/parties emails should be protected in similar fashion to stop other countries from trying to destabilize us.
     
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    Take it from someone who works in Gov. (me). She only got "off" because she had/has friends in DOJ and FBI. Literally if I were to do the same thing, I'd be in jail w/no way to re-troll Rasta's troll.
     
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    To be honest, I think he is too paranoid to even use email now. The thing with twitter is he says what he says and it's transparent. Emails are private.
     
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    'scuse me? :lol:
     
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    Is a person that issues government proclamations via twitter a twit?
     
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