Bernie Sanders: Donald Trump Won Because People Are Tired of Political Correctness

There's a great segment on Bill Maher's show with a panel talking about Hillary losing...his guest is a comedian going by the name Redneck Liberal...he really made some clear points about how Hillary's deplorables statement made rednecks from his home state come out in droves and vote just out of anger at her even though 10 years ago....they wouldn't have even bothered to vote...he shut up a couple of Hillary's campaign managers on the panel in quick fashion...they had no answer for him. He said no way Southern rednecks would vote for a New York real estate tycoon until they felt insulted by her. Slam dunk for Trump

 

Interesting. That certainly was a problem for her. I also think the overconfidence of the Dems along with the Comey stuff probably had a large impact too. But, the election's over. She lost. It doesn't really matter why she lost (except I do think that the cybersecurity stuff does need to be looked at).

 

Those three states have an shitload of hicks. They came out to vote.

 

Trump enticed a lot of northern urban votes with his tax cut for big business...I think that was bigger than most factors in the former blue states..

 

I call bullshit on that.
1. Who the fuck gets upset about being called "deplorable"?
2. Of course it had NOTHING to do with the fact that she's a female candidate, oh no. It's because she called them "deplorable."
3. Makes a change from the "economic" narrative, I guess. So who's the butthurt ones?

(Of course, I'm not even going to bother pointing out that the full quote was that SOME of Trump's supporters, specifically the RACIST ones, were "deplorable." So if you think she's calling you deplorable, you've already self-identified as racist. So you're saying "sure I'm racist, but how DARE you call me deplorable!?")

 

What does "political correctness" mean when BERNIE says it? When the deplorables say it it means "not racist", but I'm assuming that's not what he means.

 

Do you enjoy being called deplorable?

What makes you think it's because she's a female?

 

tell it to them dude....I didn't write the script...although he has a point that few folks talk about...I guessing you didn't watch the show

 

In the show the woman representing Hillary mentioned this and the Redneck comic answered her...."I agree with you one hundred percent but do you want to be right or do you want to fucking win?"

 

True dat. It's sort of a joke that large swathes of Michigan are "Michitucky". It wasn't just poor black people who got sucked up into Michigan by the Auto Industry. And was it James Carville who said of Pennsylvania that it was basically Pittsburgh, Philly and then Appalachia.

Wisconsin is kind of tragic. That state is the blueprint for a Republican hit job. It used to be pretty much Minnesota, but it's turning rapidly into Indiana. (Milwaukee, I believe, is still the only US city of any size ever to have a Socialist mayor.)

A couple of days before the election I was driving around the Michigan countryside, enjoying the fall colors, still believing in the inevitability of a Hillary victory. But I couldn't help but notice that the ONLY yard signs I was seeing were Trump ones. Not that there were huge numbers of them, just that they were the ONLY ones.

 

That still doesn't tell me what Bernie means.

And is this redneck guy saying "hey Democrats, cater to a minority of racist white guys by throwing POC, women and gays under the bus" Then you can win and show your true colors, the way Trump is doing now? I think that's a pretty risky strategy. Basically betray YOUR base in the hope of chipping away at THEIRS.

Trump really won by a strategy of depressing the Democratic vote. Part of that was the populism message (but JESUS you have to be stupid to buy that coming from him. I mean "shouldn't be allowed to drive" stupid) but most of it was the fake news and the phony scandals. Nate Silver's latest line is that Comey alone was probably enough to swing the election.

 

An interesting (i.e., horribly toxic) result of this whole thing is that a wedge has been driven between poor whites and educated whites (who overwhelmingly reject Trump, natch) For example, I'm seeing a lot of the latter saying "well, you poor whites are about to lose your health insurance, and birth control, and safe abortions, and basically FUCK YOU, I no longer care, you brought this upon yourself."

Things are going to get a lot uglier before any healing is going to start. And in the interim, Trump and the plutocrats are going to have free rein to plunder.

 

Okay, now Bernie has officially joined the shitlist. I was for him over Clinton, but only because he was a feel good story. If I gave it 2 seconds of thought, I knew that he would make a pretty shitty president. (Besides which, the oppo research on him that the Trump people could use was pretty devastating. People say Bernie should've used Clinton's emails and "went easy" on her. Oh yeah? Well Clinton never brought up that whole "Bernie wrote a story where a woman was raped and liked it" angle, did she? And of course, that's just the TRUE stuff, which of course Trump wouldn't've been limited to.)

But this is dangerous horseshit. I'm prepared to give him some benefit of the doubt over choice of words, and yes, people are "tired of the same political climate" (and elect Trump, which is like being tired of mosquitoes so jumping in a pool of acid) blah blah. But "painful things" makes it sound a lot like "painful truths" - things people need to hear. But people don't need to hear that all Muslims should be banned from the US, temporarily or not, or that illegal immigrants are murderers and rapists, when they're more law abiding than the general population (yes, yes, apart from the immigration law, obviously). Bernie's pretty close to being a willing stooge here.

"Some people believe" Yeah, the same people that believe in Pizzagate. Y'know: stupid fuckwits.

 

Now Michigan is a bunch of rednecks. SAD

 

watch the segment Rasta....he's not who you think...he's truly a liberal that one of his points is...so are many of them...and you go on calling them racists...these are not the rednecks he's talking about but I think you've got a slightly stereotypical view of rural culture..he's a bright guy..just used common sense to debunk some media spin that he felt ignored a lot of people outside the "cool" urbanites

 

and it's all YOUR fault!!!

 

Okay, that's more like it Bernie:

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/wat...-for-the-wrong-person-in-less-than-2-minutes/

 

I'm not buying into negative affirmations...I think this election will end up solving things that have nothing to do with Trump or his cabinet choices. Wake up call for the intellectual community and those of ways and means who've been in a Starbucks coma for a long time