Think about it, if we could've signed Turner for $3M less per year, we could've let Leonard go, not acquired Napier, and had the money to sign Gordon and Ezeli to the contracts they were given this off-season. Damn.
76ers writer Keith Pompey on 620 this morning says that Crabbe + pick for Noel makes a lot of sense for Philly; says that if that were offered, Sixers would think long and hard about that deal.
Well yeah, they win that trade. I wouldn't offer Crabbe. Offer a pick. Why should we offer more? He's a pending FA who has struggled to stay healthy. Let's see what other teams offer for him.
I don't think that is exactly true, is it? We were able to sign Leonard because he was our own restricted free agent and so we could go over the cap to sign him. But maybe we could have signed Gordon if we had signed Turner for less.
After renouncing Kaman, Henderson and Roberts, the Turner + Ezeli signings put us about $3 million under the cap. Unfortunately, at that point, BRK forced our hand by signing Crabbe to that offer sheet. Matching Crabbe instantly put us $15 million over the cap and ended the ability to sign other free agents - other than our own players. At that point, it made sense to re-sign our own free agents using their Bird rights (Leonard and Harkless). And, might as well give G.J. his extension at that time, too. So, Leonard had zero to do with (theoretically) not signing Gordon. The only way we could have gotten Gordon (assuming the same contract he got from HOU) would have been to not sign Ezeli and sign Turner for about $3 million/year less than we offered him. Given that our biggest need going into the summer, rim protection, hadn't been addressed, and we'd already signed one perimeter player in Turner, going after Gordon would not have made any sense at the time. Gordon is looking good now and like a relative bargain, but he's healthy and playing in a system that is perfect for him. Ezeli was a gamble, but given that we'd already signed Turner and had the ability to match any offer Crabbe received, going after Gordon was never going to happen. And, it had nothing to do with Meyers Leonard. BNM
Damn I only mentioned Gordon because he was Neil's guy, so I thought he might go after him, and I was actually hoping he wouldn't. It's easy to say now he should've. He's payed off so far, but I'm actually happy with Turner. If we had Gordon we would see even more of CJ as the point guard, and god please no I don't even want to think about it.
ya gotta move crabbe or Turner because of his contract, Noel is an RFA and gets paid next summer so ya gotta open up some room
That contract only looks bad now, give it a year or two. There will be bench players making that. Also, if he were starting, which he would be for Philadelphia, it looks a lot better. What I'm saying is, it's not an untradeable contract. And like Woj said, it'll look even more attractive next summer.
If we do make a trade for a center then I sure hope it's for more than half a year of somebody's time. We may be over the cap at some point but every move we make has to have some long term value. I don't want to give up a couple of valuable trade pieces from this team just so Andrew Bogut can order takeout at a local hotel for a few months.
You phrased your response as a question ("I don't think that is exactly true, is it?"). I was adding more detail for clarification. The poster you quoted said we could have signed both Gordon and Ezeli, which we could not have done. You did not address this. It was this detail that was the main point of all those extra words. We would have had to sign Turner for less AND pass on Ezeli in order to sign Gordon. So, Signing Gordon would have cost us Ezeli and probably Crabbe as it wouldn't have made sense to shell out big bucks to all of Turner, Gordon and Crabbe. BNM
The research that rival teams have done on Nerlens Noel is “not good,” per Wojnarowski, who adds that those clubs haven’t gotten good reports about the way the Sixers big man carries himself, and his habits. Teams are still interested in acquiring Noel, but they don’t want to give up a whole lot for him, so it’ll be interesting to see if Philadelphia eventually takes what it can get. The Sixers would probably love to see Noel put in a couple healthy and productive months before the deadline to improve his stock. Maybe we can get him for just crabbe? if we throw in a pick I want stauskas too
Knowing how Woj and Olshey operate, would it really surprise anyone if Woj' source was actually Olshey, trying to drive the price down some more?
If it is I would have a lot more respect for Neil thats an Alonzo Harris move right there... this shit's chess muthafucka it ain't checkers!
