Plumlee needs to be traded before the deadline

THIS. Plums needs to play at PF. Dude isn't a center. Couple him with Noel, I am good with that. Plums will be tossing lobs.

 

What I think is that most of the fans get too attached to some players and miss the big picture. Don't trade Plumlee he can be a beast but we don't play him the right way right now, don't trade Harkless he is the future in SF position, don't trade CJ he can create his own shot and is an amazing scorer, don't trade Crabbe is our best shooter off the bench, don't trade Vonleh he can be an amazing player.

Ok then how do we get a decent return? We don't trade anyone and the others give us players for free? Or we think packages of all the garbage we have+some picks will do the job? Everyone else is stupid and we the smart ones?

Regarding this topic the thought of not trading Plumlee because he would be a great fit as a PF next to a rim protector is insane. In today's NBA where spacing is everything we get too attached to Plumlee that we even envision him as a good fit next to a rim protecting C and all this because the only thing he can do at an elite level (for a big guy) is to pass the ball?

 

Interesting how you mention the importance of spacing and then the very next sentence devalue passing the basketball. Passing the ball is spacing! You can't leave plumlee open just because he can't shoot because he'll kill you with his ability to make decisions with the ball. Look at the clippers series as an example. Plumlee was our MVP.

 

I said elite for a big guy, there are many players in the league with much better court vision and in the end of the day when you play PF you need a decent jumper. And he is not that lethal passer that "he'll kill you with his ability to make decisions with the ball". It's Mason Plumlee, not Draymond Green.

All in all I'd love to have Plumlee around as a backup big, but not with the contract he'll demand during summer. We just cannot afford paying a lot to another not difference maker.

 

I do agree Noel is more of a PF than a center, but the only problem with that is since there are so many stretch 4's in the league he would have to cover the perimeter and we still wouldn't have a rim protector under the basket.....which is his main strength.
Not saying he would not help, just that I think we need more size at center and move Plumlee to PF.

 

I don't think Noel is a power forward. They tried him there with Okafor at C last year and they were dreadful.

 

So he can't play center and he can't play PF......why do we want him so badly? Of course they would have been dreadful last year regardless.

I guess if he could get up to 240 and was a lot stronger, he could play the Marcus Camby role. But I would still prefer a space eater in there.

 

Uhh he can play center. Very well. He's an anchor, despite whatever his weight is

I still prefer Nurkic, but not because of size, but rather because he brings more to the table offensively. If you're going to criticize any part of Noels game, that should be it.

 

Plumlee will demand 1.5 times that.

 

He won't get it. The cap is not jumping up as much next year, so you won't see as many ridiculous contracts.

 

When Leonard and Mozgov got what they got, what makes you think a starting center who can handle the ball well isn't going to get 1.5 what they got?
Plumlee will get 15 mill a year.

 

The cap went up by 25 million last year, which is why contracts were inflated. It'll be going up less than 10 mil this year, so I don't think we'll see contracts on that level of silly this year. But maybe he will get 15 mil, I'd rather over pay him by giving him 15 then paying Leonard 10.

But with Portland being so far over the cap, I think they are out of the race.

 

There isnt just one option though Sin...
I know you and some others think that our roster is currently untradable... or the bulk of it, due to overpaying, but I disagree and the moment Leonard is traded in a package, it might very well be the plan to keep Plumlee and have him sign a 12-15 mill contract and come off the bench.
We move Crabbe, Leonard, Ezeli and there is plenty of room for him and Noel.

 

They trapped Dame and CJ when they had the ball vs Clips last year. Dame/CJ were able to give Mase the ball and he was able to make plays. I believe he had 9 assists twice. We don't win that series without him.

 

In production per minute, Plumlee was our 2nd-best player last season, and is 3rd-best this season. Olshey better not give him away for free like he did Robin Lopez, or I'll get a pitchfork and run Olshey back to Los Angeles, all the way down I-5.

 

We don't win that series if Blake and CP3 stay healthy.

 

Or we do. Portland turned the momentum before Paul got injured. They were handling the clippers both home games. Clippers probably still win, but to say it would've been a sure thing is ignoring what was actually happening.