Trades to improve our defense

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Let's hear 'em. I know Noel is a favorite, but I don't actually think he would improve us much. He has great physical tools and he gets blocks and steals, but I think he's more like young DeAndre Jordan than current DeAndre Jordan (who is also nowhere near as good as lumberers like Bogut and Marc Gasol).

    Quick fix: Ezeli and Vonleh for Tyson Chandler (it works, I've checked it).
    Why would the Suns do it? Chandler made sense when they thought they'd sign Aldridge, but makes no sense to a young team who won't make the playoffs and have have Alex Len needing minutes.

    Big move: Crabbe and Leonard for Wes and Bogut
    Why would the Mavs do it? Nowitzki is done, and Wes and Bogut only made sense surrounding him on a playoff team. And Wes is way overpaid.
    Why wouldn't the Mavs do it? Crabbe is also way overpaid. And Leonard is shit, whereas Bogut's deal will expire very soon and free up cap space, which Dallas, unlike Portland, can actually turn into a decent player.
     
  2. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    I'm all for Tyson Chandler. I'm sick of this age limit, developing players bullshit.
     
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    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    But but but the Worriers did it.
     
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    You forget to sign into your other account?
     
  5. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Ha!

    I wish I could rep you 100 times there.
     
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    we need a shitload more charles oakley and a fuckload less justine bieber.
     
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    Is this a metaphor for the internal struggle of the Warriors?
     
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    The BGD bot probably uses speech recognition software and doesn't notice the incorrect spelling.
     
  9. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    After reading the thread title, and before reading the OP, my first response was "Tyson Chandler". So I support both Rasta and BGD's position in this thread.
     
  10. Dougnsalem

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    Easy solution for all of this. Get Jordan or Green. If anyone on our team gets lacksidasical on D, then they get kicked in the nuts by their new teammate.....
     
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    Marcus Camby 2.0? how'd that work out?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'd definitely trade Crabbe and Leonard for Bogut and Wes. Wes may never fully regain his old form, but his attitude is definitely something this team needs more of and Bogut trumps any of our other options at the 5.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Cattle prods would help, just not sure if we should use them on our players or have our players use them on the opposing team.
     
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    I'm surprised no one's suggested Amir Johnson all year.

    The dude is playing less that 20mpg in Boston. He has a career DBPM of 2.2, and can shoot all the way out to the 3-point line. He's expiring, so he could maybe be had for cheap.

    I like a 3-way trade where:

    BOS Gets:
    2018 POR 1st
    2020 BKN 2nd
    2021 BKN 2nd
    $12M Trade Exception

    POR Gets:
    Amir Johnson
    Filler

    BKN Gets:
    Meyers Leonard
    Festus Ezeli

    Boston gets more assets (picks + trade exception) to trade for a big time player/good role players, Brooklyn gets a young piece in Leonard who would play immediately. We get some cap relief.

    Our Lineup:
    Lillard / McCollum
    McCollum / Crabbe
    Harkless / Turner
    Johnson / Aminu
    Plumlee / Davis


    We could then work something like Vonleh, Napier, and a 1st for Noel and have a very underrated defensive frontline of Johnson/Noel, while having good defenders off the bench.
     
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    I like Amir but Ezeli, Leonard and a 1st for him plus scraps seems high for him.
     
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    We'd be getting the scraps. Ezeli is likely done for the season, so it's just to match salary and keep us under the cap. The CLE 1st will likely be 29th or 30th, so a very late 1st and Leonard is definitely worth it for Johnson IMO.
     
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    considering nards isn't worth jack, absolutely!
     
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    Yes, at this point, just to get rid of Leonard's contract, it would be worth it, even if we got no players back.
     
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    10m per is pretty much a bench player's salary nowadays, Leonard will not be hard to move. There's still talent there and teams will always believe they can get the best out of a player. Just don't expect much of a return, which I'm ok with.
     
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    Eddie Sefko (Dallas Morning News) on 620am this morning says Bogut would likely be available for a first-round pick, and would be a great addition in Portland if we're OK with him only playing 20-24 mpg.
     

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