It's not Olshey

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  1. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Aw shit! NOW who am I going to argue with for the next 8 hours. Let's see, what is Boob posting...
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    My post answered your claim that there was no way Aldrich would have signed with us. Your proof was the fan mag article. I just said that such articles are standard and do not prove that he would have turned down the money given to Crabbe or Turner. Now you say, well duh. Flip flop!
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I assumed the obvious was obvious. My bad.

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    You DID seek out a Boob Post to debate. LMAO@YOU. HAHAHA. I laugh because I like it. :)
     
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    What as vacuus response. That's like saying, "I assumed that vacuum is the same as nothingness." Wrong-o! Or, "I assumed that since the word 'vacuum' has 2 u's, it has 2 c's." Double vowel wrong-o! Here's your home board game, and bring out our next contestant, Vanna.

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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Jesus H. Christ you're high maintenance.

    In my original post, I actually started to type:

    Sure, we could have offered Aldrich Turner type money, but then we wouldn't have been able to sign Turner.

    But that just seemed too obvious to me, so I deleted it. Apparently, I was wrong.

    Aldrich clearly wasn't Olshey's Plan C after Whiteside and Parsons fell through. That honor went to Turner.

    Well then, we could have offered him Ezeli's money. But why? He got more from MIN than we gave Ezeli, and as you noted, we would have had to pay a significant premium to lure Aldrich away from his hometown team. After signing Turner, we didn't have enough left under the cap to offer Aldrich that significant premium.

    I have no idea if Aldrich was even on Neil's radar, but unless he was higher on Neil's priority list than Evan Turner, the point is moot. And, since he offered that money to Turner, not Aldrich, it seems obvious (there's that word again), that Evan Turner, not Cole Aldrich, was Olshey's preferred Plan C.

    I have no idea why you're even arguing about this. MN was Aldrich's preferred destination, which was the entire point of my initial post on the topic. Of course, we could have lured him away if we'd been willing to grotesquely overpay him. Every man has his price. That doesn't mean we should pay it.

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    For whoever brought up Aldrich in this thread, the point is, he should have been. So I agreed. Aldrich should have been a higher priority to Olshey than he was, since he could been had for, at most, what Olshey paid for shorter wings whom we didn't need. You say he wasn't. Duh. But he should have been.

    I thought this point was obvious, but obviously I was wrong, since you thought we were saying that Olshey wanted him but botched it. No, the point was that Olshey didn't want him, at least not as much as wings/lesser players like Crabbe or Turner. Olshey's payment would have been less grotesque had he lured Aldrich, whom we need more, instead of one of them.
     
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    Yeah, but do they have valet parking? One percenters don't like to soil their loafers and should not be expected to park their own cars. Donchaknow.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Why do we think we know what players Olshey did nor did not inquire about? This idea that Olshey didn't pursue a player because he didn't sign them, or didn't tender an official offer, continues to baffle me. I guess I'm going on the assumption that Olshey talks to every GM and every player agent and gauges players' interest in playing in Portland, and for how much, before sending out offer sheets. Because, you know, that's his job. :dunno:
     
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    Man I like a ton of your posts ,your funny as hell, but you are crazy if you didn't think we needed a defensive minded ball handling distributor as a wing.

    Is Aldrich that much better than Plumlee? Different types of players, but they both serve a purpose. I think Turner was more important than another role playing center and I think NO feels the same. He couldn't land the elite center and he knew we have plenty of rol;e playing centers. He went for Ezeli for back up elite D. Would Aldrich provide that? no. SO Aldrich's value to us is less than Turner, but you'd still be willing to pay him?
     
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    Keep going...2 more steps down and you'll reach the targeted destination of Hells Yeah!

    There are lots of bad starters in the league and almost all are on bad teams. A good GM fills their roster with good players on team friendly contracts. I heard you out as requested, no sale. Thusfar Crabbe is a poor man's Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and he's especially poor because he's paying him to be an All Star.

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    You aren't restricted by the cap. That is, your payroll can be much higher.

    Consider the Heat. Cleared enough cap space to sign Bosh, LeBron and Wade. At the cap, all they could add was vet minimum, even though $10M under the LT.
     

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