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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    riverman beat me to your answer.
     
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  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Obama says YOU are an international terrorist. He's ordered me to censor your posts.

    Get it?
     
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  3. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    OK maybe I was embellishing slightly. I just agree with Denny, that in this day and age, I don't trust them to not stomp on our rights.
     
  4. MarAzul

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    You wouldn't advocate an infringement because we already did one, would you?
     
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    And now you've just answered your own question.

    I've contributed by trolling!

    It's a gift.
     
  6. SlyPokerDog

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    If there is a lot of money in it for me I sure as hell would.

    And our next President agrees with me.

    Trump/Sly 2020!
     
  7. PtldPlatypus

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    And I don't trust people not to overreact ridiculously to something the government does that doesn't actually indicate what those people think it does. You know, like this bill, that doesn't actually say anything about censoring anyone, foreign or domestic, ally or enemy.

    But people will believe what they choose to believe, facts be damned.
     
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  8. MarAzul

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  9. Denny Crane

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    Define "foreign propaganda."

    I think it's whatever barfo posts here.
     
  10. PtldPlatypus

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    Why does it matter? Even if my posts are foreign propaganda, I can spread it all I want.
     
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  11. Denny Crane

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    Not if the government tells me (and the other sites you post) to remove the content.
     
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    Just fucking with you, I had posted this before.

     
  13. PtldPlatypus

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    And what would be the basis for that directive? And how does this bill impact this hypothetical situation?

    If you delete posts identified by the government as foreign propaganda, that's your choice. That's not government censorship unless there's a governmentally-imposed penalty for non-compliance.
     
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  14. Denny Crane

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    The bill you defend establishes a government ministry of truth.

    It establishes the power to enact a "national strategy."

    It establishes a fund that will go to news agencies the government wants to establish as "truth sayers."

    Do I really need to go on?
     
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    The bolded section is inaccurate. Here are the sections of the bill that reference the "National Strategy":

    • Section 2-5 mentions that it is the sense of Congress (ie, their belief) that "the United States Government should develop a comprehensive strategy to counter foreign disinformation and propaganda and assert leadership in developing a fact-based strategic narrative". No power established here.
    • Section 3-2 states that one of the purposes of the "Center" (that to which you refer as a "Ministry of Truth") is "to establish a framework for the integration of critical data and analysis on foreign propaganda and disinformation efforts into the development of national strategy." No strategy being created here either.
    The bill only allows for a department that collects and analyzes data, and sharing the results of that analysis. Nothing more. You're creating the rest in your own mind.
     
  16. Denny Crane

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    (5) the United States Government should develop a comprehensive strategy to counter foreign disinformation and propaganda and assert leadership in developing a fact-based strategic narrative; and

    ...

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    I'm not sure why you're defending the government deciding what the "truth" is and picking and choosing which newspapers and TV outlets get government checks to spout the government's favored propaganda.
     
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    Bingo, bango, bongo, bish bash bosh.

    Denny's got the point.
     
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    Who is "them"?
     
  19. Denny Crane

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    The government already effectively censors any political party not Democrat or Republican.
     
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    Not "us"
     

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