Would you trade Lillard?

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  1. Cippy91

    Cippy91 Habitual Line Stepper

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    fucking lol
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Porzingas is the one that really burns you? I am virtually certain Porzingas has more trade value than Lillard around the NBA. Porzingas is one of the most coveted young players in the league, up there with players like Towns and Antetokounmpo. I'd trade Lillard for Porzingas with no doubts in my mind at all.
     
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    It's not just "Lillard for Mudiay/Jokic" (for example), so much as it's

    Lillard/CJ/Harkless/Aminu/Plumlee + Turner/Crabbe/Vonleh/Leonard for
    CJ/Crabbe/Aminu/Plumlee/Jokic + Mudiay/Turner/Harkless/Leonard.

    It's certainly arguable that the latter is a better, more balanced squad, and certainly better defensively.
     
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    rasheedfan2005 Well-Known Member

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    anyone notice they are resting lillard in preparation to trade him? or is it to showcase CJ's ability to run a team so they can trade him?

    :MARIS61::MARIS61::MARIS61::MARIS61::MARIS61:
     
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    EVERYBODY loves the 7 footer that can shoot. Guessing you love Meyers too? granted, porzingis is way better than leonard just saying. No way in hell though Lillard=Porzingis. That is insane
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Everybody loves the new Dirk Nowitzki who also provides rim protection? Yes, basically.

    I don't love Meyers Leonard because he neither has the Nowitzkian ability to hit contested jumpers nor does he have any defensive value at all, let alone great rim protection.

    We'll have to agree to disagree on his relative value versus Lillard, but as far as I'm concerned, he's likely to end up having similar offensive impact with far, far greater defensive impact. I still don't think there's any NBA GM that would prefer to have Lillard over Porzingas in a one-for-one comparison. Especially considering Porzingas is five years younger, so nowhere close to his peak.
     
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    Maaaaybe? (But no.)
    NO!
    NOOO!!!
    No!
     
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    FFS it's a loose estimate of his abilities on both sides of the ball.
    OK then, tell me, what are your estimates of his abilities - I'll go back and correct mine so you can wipe away your tears.
     
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    No.

    Was there really discussion on this? I guess we should talk about more impossibilities...
     
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    Lillard is the Trump of point guards!
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    So what you're saying is, based upon your personal assessment, we're supposed to use your opinion? Um no. Hell, I'd take 2K attributes before yours.
     
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    Can we win the championship while getting outscored by the other team?
     
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    Or watch after grabbing a bag of popcorn and an ice cola. :lol:
     
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    No. What I'm saying is I believe they are reasonable, and being used to make a point - not the point itself.

    Look man, I've read and agreed with a lot of your posts, I just don't know why they bothered you so much.
    All they are saying is Lillard is a good offensive player, and not very good on defense.
     
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    That's bullshit. Put Michael Jordan on a team with a bunch of non-scorers and he'll be shut down. The other players have to be able at least to be a threat to make you pay for crowding the star player. It's no accident that it was often one of Jordan's "supporting cast" who hit the championship shots.

    Not to mention that the rest of the players have to "run the offense" by setting screens etc. even if the star player does shoot more. It's like saying that the quarterback does it all and the offensive line contributes nothing.
     
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    Just to be clear: I think Lillard is a very, very good player, with a lot of qualities that you would kill for your star player to have. He oozes class. It's just that we have a very unbalanced roster and we can probably get best value for him. If we'd've taken Giannis instead of CJ I wouldn't even be talking about this. (And if we could've somehow got Rudy Gobert AND Giannis, then we'd be a powerhouse already!)
     
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    Yeah, I'm passing on all of those deals and doing so pretty quickly. The only one I'd pause for a second would be The Unicorn but Dame's way too valuable.
     
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    lol. the past, the past, the past, stop trying to make it last.
     
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    So you've agreed with some of my posts. :dunno:

    I disagree with yours. Saying Lillard is a 20/100 on D is borderline trolling.
     
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    I personally wouldn't trade Dame. He is the heart and soul of the team and I sincerely wish he finishes his playing career as a Blazer.
     
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