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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Read this.

    Fact check.



    The guy is an expert. Don't have to take my word for it.
     
  2. Chris Craig

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    So, just let Russia do whatever they want? Let them build themselves into a superpower? Hell no
     
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    Not doing anything and allowing Russia to build itself into a superpower is a prelude to war.
     
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    This!
     
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    why assume he hasn't made a cool, calm and objective observation? We've had a year and a half of campaign promises...Stevenson is just a guy, saying something today to you...
    sure....we've been at war with Cuba and N Korea for how long now? When will we pull out of Iran.? C'mon Denny! Putin doesn't even take those sanctions seriously....Russian people are joking about it on the media...you seem to know less about sabre rattling than you do about surrender
     
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    So launch the nukes?

    There isn't any CAUSE.

    Read the Medium.com article.

    The government isn't telling us how than are sure that the Russian government is involved.

    What was presented was barely circumstantial evidence, if evidence at all. Just an accusation.
     
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  7. Denny Crane

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    He was specific about a "lie" that is going to embarrass himself if Trump does have a set of facts to present.

    Clinton is on record (video) saying she was against gay marriage. This election she said she is for it. By your standard she lied. Doesn't at all allow the person to change their POV.
     
  8. SlyPokerDog

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    LOL! 12 years vs 1 month.

    But again, your continued Hillary did it so it's okay if Trump does it is not a valid argument. It's just making excuses.
     
  9. Denny Crane

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    This!
     
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    by my standard I could give a flying fuck what she did....I didn't vote for her
     
  11. Denny Crane

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    Read the medium.com article.

    Hopefully it's not too technical for you.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    A Romanian hacked the illegal Clinton server. That is not "us" , and not Russia.

    A phishing scam outed Podesta. It was no foreign "hack". It was his own stupidity on GMAIL. Furthermore why hasn't Google corroborated the 'outside' IP that accessed his account? Surely they could easily see a different network/device accessing it.

    That leaves the DNC. Which again, is not "us", as it's not a Government agency.

    And if you read the 13 page report released, it gives no smoking gun, it basically reasserts previous claims without providing any support for their validity.

    A good take on the document.
    http://arstechnica.com/security/201...016-election-bitter-debate-likely-to-rage-on/

    Not to mention this has been going on since 2015 and not a fucking peep back then. Then all of the sudden the Democrats lose and this is blamed for it? Bullshit.

    Standing against Russia is not the way forward. That is only going to lead to more escalation, confrontation, and possible war. You guys and your warmongering.... totally screwy. Furthermore the only war with Russia is nuclear war. So people need to fuck off with this idea of retaliation.
     
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    I really like it when you take the time to write out a reply like that. I may not agree with everything but I respect the shit out of you for making it.

    Thing that we all must ask ourselves is why did Russia take such an active interest in this election. It's not because they don't like Hillary. Also I just don't buy that if people don't trust or like Russia it means that they want to go to war with them. I run across people I don't like but that doesn't mean I want to beat them up or kill them. It's just an odd escalation. Best buddies with Russia or war?!?
     
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    I agree with all this
     
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    Now that we don't have a space program that can take people into space, the Russians are the ones who give our guys a ride to the space station.

    They're not our enemies.
     
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    If Pakistan is considered an ally then "not our enemy" sounds pretty shitty.
     
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    It is, especially on the word of Obama. I don't trust him. He ought to play lame duck as he surely is. Twenty days of golf and shut the fuck up.
     
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