Ok, I remember how (deservedly) hated Rick Barry was back in the day, but this line by the author cracked me up: How exactly is shooting FTs underhanded subversive? Was that Barry's plan, shooting FTs granny style, to bring down the entire league and overthrow the powers that be? I highly doubt if it was, but if true, that would make Barry as dumb as he is loathsome. BNM
Barry said something bad about the Blazers and didn't sing their praises despite their poor record? He sucks!
John Canzano had Rick Barry on his radio show? Where was Kanye? It would have had a Holy Trinity of Egotistical Douche bags.
The author may have meant that a male pro athlete proudly using a "feminine" shooting style was subversive, socially.
Great take! While Crabbe/Meyers might be playing slightly below last season's performance, I don't think it's significant. Only Aminu/Davis are significantly worse than last season - and last season was a career year (anomaly) for Aminu, so the regression shouldn't be surprising.
Oh boy! I love history threads! Uh yes, it IS perfectly logical to do so. He jumped back to the NBA when they outbid the ABA. He went for money, not loyalty to his team or league, which is how all players do it now, but he was the first. Right. Barry took the big bucks and led both pro leagues in scoring, repeatedly. He worked hard. He was dumb and immediately apologized all over the place to Russell. He was surprised that Russell's feelings were hurt and asked him on the air why he was acting hurt, like, I'm sorry, I didn't know, I was stupid. The NBA black player percentage was at least as high then as now, and he was often the only white starter, so he knew plenty of blacks. He wasn't a racist, just sharp-tongued and insensitive, which made him the best color commentator in history in national NBA telecasts. Other former players wouldn't criticize players, but he loved to get into it. It's hard to find retired superstars who are verbal (the only other one was Bill Walton, later) so they aren't as good as non-player sportscasters. He used to scream like Sheed at referees, so Dviss, you have a separate reason to dislike him. Right. Barry knows no more about Blazer personnel problems than what Canzano prepped him in the preview before the show. Check your thesaurus for "underhanded" before asking dumb questions. First time I ever heard that shooting underhanded is how women players do it. You once told me how manly you are, so your hairy chest obviously knows nothing about women.
Only 5 guys got paid. CJ has been playing great, Turner was not even here last year, and the other 3 are playing as well as they did last year. The only individual I see that has clearly regressed is Davis.
Had Barry said the Blazers record is disappointing I'd agree. Had he said they had regressed I'd agree. Had he said clearly this is not the team of last year I'd agree. But without any inside knowledge, without so far as I know being personally acquainted, let alone close to, any of the players, he pontificates from on high the problem is their lack of "character". Asshole.
In the '60s and '70s, shooting underhand was considered "feminine," from what I've read (which includes Wilt Chamberlain's shorter-lived experiment with it). I have no idea if girls who played basketball back then actually shot underhanded, but it was ridiculed as such.
What you read may have confused women's softball (pitching underhanded) with basketball. I didn't see many underhanded free throws by women..but then at least half of high schools didn't field women's basketball teams, so I didn't see many games. I remember when I was 5 foot 2 in the 6th grade, I shot free throws overhanded without trouble (and missed them) so I would think high school girls wouldn't need any extra power from shooting underhanded. By the 7th-8th grade, I was heaving them from halfcourt (and missing them). So short people shoot overhanded. But I could be wrong (don't bet on it...have I ever missed about anything?). Take your pick. Does the above paragraph discriminate against dames, runts, or softball?
Translation....jlprk was living in a commune in Berkley when Barry was playing...he still has his autograph and this thread represents the fountain of youth sprinkled with People's Park festival spirit
Well, as I said, it may well be that underhand free throws weren't even a thing girls did--but supposedly there was a perception that it was feminine (I think even the "granny-style" appellation points to that--while obviously it also brings in age, it's probably not random that the term was "granny-style" and not "grandpa-style"). I read that that was one reason that Wilt Chamberlain didn't like shooting free throws that way.
They have a longer underhanded arc....we have testicles shortening the stroke...unless...there was some horrible accident or angry wife involved
The hell if the City of Berkeley is taking back our People's Park! If I only had a dollar for every song I sung. Every time I came to play where people sat and strummed. Saturday in the park. I think it was the Fourth of July. People dancing, people laughing, a man selling ice cream singing Italian songs. People talking, really smiling. A man playing guitar, singing for us all. Will you help him change the world? Can you dig it? Yes I can. I've been waiting such a long time for today. Slow motion riders fly the colors of today. A bronze man still can tell stories his own way. Listen, children all is not lost. All is not lost. Funny days in the park. Every day's the Fourth of July. People reaching, people touching. A real celebration waiting for us all, if you want it, really want it. Can you dig it? Yes I can. I've been waiting such a long time for today. Legalize LSD!
