http://break.com/index/baby_shoots_his_first_gun.htmlIf you look at the comments section, you can see there are two sides on the video.The people who think that this is good gun safety, and the parents are smart for doing this.And the people who think this is the worst thing for the child, and can result in shootings, accidental or not.I found it interesting that the two groups are thinking totally opposite. I'd like to continue the debate here to see what opinions form.
This is in no way dangerous or foolish at all. The dad was holding the gun with his son. I mean, really, it's pretty f*cking hard to mess up shooting a gun unless you are an idiot. It's like using an oven, it's only dangerous if you stick your head in it or leave it on overnight. Kids learn things better at a young age. If the child is taught properly, it is not a problem. None of us know the family, so we don't have anything to judge as far as I'm concerned. All I saw was a video of a dad showing his young son how to properly shoot a fairly small firearm. And the kid had proper protection on. It's better than a lot of parents who stick their kids in front of the tv or let them get kidnapped in the front yard.
The only people that have an issue with that are stupid/pissy liberals who complain about everything.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Feb 6 2007, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only people that have an issue with that are stupid/pissy liberals who complain about everything.</div>Lol, speak for yourself. You think 9/11 wasnt a conspiracy.This isn't THAT bad IMO, but it's not something I'd want my kid to pickup at an early age. I mean, it's better to see that his dad was with him the entire time and stuff, and he wasnt doing it himself.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Feb 6 2007, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only people that have an issue with that are stupid/pissy liberals who complain about everything.</div>+1 :happy0144: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You think 9/11 wasnt a conspiracy.</div>-1 :thumbdn1: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>This isn't THAT bad IMO, but it's not something I'd want my kid to pickup at an early age.</div>No, that's something you WANT a kid to pick up at an early age. Showing them how it works, and how it feels when they are little would prevent them from finding daddy's gun on the floor, not knowing the dangers or how to use it safely, and shoot themselves or someone else accidentally.
I think it is kind of smart. You could tell he hated it and it could make him hate guns for years to come. Which is good.
1. I am 99.99% sure that the dad's focus wasn't to make him hate guns.2. WHY would it be a good thing that the kid hates guns?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Feb 6 2007, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lol, speak for yourself. You think 9/11 wasnt a conspiracy.</div>Oh god.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Feb 6 2007, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. I am 99.99% sure that the dad's focus wasn't to make him hate guns.2. WHY would it be a good thing that the kid hates guns?</div>It seemed like it, they kid would try to leave and the dad kept making him shoot.Guns kill, yes they are good for self protection, but that isn't what a lot of people use them for.
I'm against it because I'm against gun use. Pointless. What's the kid need to learn how to use a gun for? So he can grow up and shoot people?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ Feb 6 2007, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It seemed like it, they kid would try to leave and the dad kept making him shoot.Guns kill, yes they are good for self protection, but that isn't what a lot of people use them for.</div>1. The dad was doing it so he would learn how to use guns properly. My dad did the same thing with me when I was a kid. That eliminated my curiosity about guns, and I never felt compelled to play with guns because I knew better.2. That's a bad argument. Just because some punk gets into a fight at a club and shoots someone doesn't mean everyone does.I hunt, shoot targets, and skeet shoot. And I would only shoot someone if they tried to harm me or my family. It's used a lot, and I'll say it again. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I'm against it because I'm against gun use. Pointless. What's the kid need to learn how to use a gun for? So he can grow up and shoot people?</div>Oh, I don't know. Maybe to protect him and his family when he's older? In case he has to use one in a dire situation?Are you against knives too? I mean why would someone need to know how to use a knife? So he can grow up and stab people?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Feb 6 2007, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh, I don't know. Maybe to protect him and his family when he's older? In case he has to use one in a dire situation?Are you against knives too? I mean why would someone need to know how to use a knife? So he can grow up and stab people?</div>No, I'm cool with knives. Guns are for cowards who can't do close range combat. Any bi*ch can just shoot someone. So if nobody used guns this kid wouldn't need one to protect his family.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Feb 6 2007, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. The dad was doing it so he would learn how to use guns properly. My dad did the same thing with me when I was a kid. That eliminated my curiosity about guns, and I never felt compelled to play with guns because I knew better.2. That's a bad argument. Just because some punk gets into a fight at a club and shoots someone doesn't mean everyone does.I hunt, shoot targets, and skeet shoot. And I would only shoot someone if they tried to harm me or my family. It's used a lot, and I'll say it again. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.</div>I must've misunderstood it then.Yes, but what the hell is the point of guns? If nobody has one then nobody needs them for protection. I mean I don't mind hunting, but without guns it isn't like the world would end. I just think in the US only armed forces should have it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ Feb 6 2007, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It seemed like it, they kid would try to leave and the dad kept making him shoot.</div>You don't seem to know much about children, no offense. You know that basketball team I coach? Those kids always wander off, lose attention, or whatever. And they do care about the game. When they lose, they say that they suck. They also cry frequently when something doesn't go right. Just because they try to leave doesn't mean anything, the kid has no attention span.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ginger Jesus @ Feb 6 2007, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm against it because I'm against gun use. Pointless. What's the kid need to learn how to use a gun for? So he can grow up and shoot people?</div>GUNS CAN ONLY BE USED FOR KILLING PEOPLE
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>No, I'm cool with knives. Guns are for cowards who can't do close range combat. Any bi*ch can just shoot someone. So if nobody used guns this kid wouldn't need one to protect his family.</div>So you're absolutely fine with people stabbing each other with knives, because it shows they aren't cowards and have close combat skills?Oooook...And you can't say "If there were no guns blah blah blah", because people will always find a way to get them.Cocaine is illegal, people still get it.When there was the probation on alcohol, people still got it.And alright, even if you got rid of all handguns, there are still hunting rifles people could use. Do you want hunting banned too? Then there would be an overpopulation of deer and other hunting animals, which is not good.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, but what the hell is the point of guns? If nobody has one then nobody needs them for protection. I mean I don't mind hunting, but without guns it isn't like the world would end. I just think in the US only armed forces should have it.</div>See beginning of my post for first rant of yours.Tell that to the Jews killed in the holocaust. Just the armed forces having guns sure didn't help them. That's the point of the 2nd amendment. To protect ourselves from danger, and to protect from the government if needed.
Guns aren't good you f*cking redneck. Your so f*cking stupid. How could guns be good to pick up at a young age? Theres a ton of kids picking up f*cking pistols, and shooting kids at schools with them. Hicks like you need to shut the F*ck up.And I'm pretty sure the definition of a conspiracy is a plan to do something, and im pretty sure the terrorists who blew up the world trade centers were a conspiracy. they didnt just get on the plan, high jack it, and accidentally fly it into new york city and the twin towers..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Feb 6 2007, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lol, speak for yourself. You think 9/11 wasnt a conspiracy.This isn't THAT bad IMO, but it's not something I'd want my kid to pickup at an early age. I mean, it's better to see that his dad was with him the entire time and stuff, and he wasnt doing it himself.</div> Anyone who thinks 9/11 is a conspiracy is just ignorant and doesn't fully understand 9/11's roots/planning....ugh...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Feb 6 2007, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Guns aren't good you f*cking redneck. Your so f*cking stupid. How could guns be good to pick up at a young age? Theres a ton of kids picking up f*cking pistols, and shooting kids at schools with them. Hicks like you need to shut the F*ck up.And I'm pretty sure the definition of a conspiracy is a plan to do something, and im pretty sure the terrorists who blew up the world trade centers were a conspiracy. they didnt just get on the plan, high jack it, and accidentally fly it into new york city and the twin towers..</div>Dude it's kids with mental problems and kids that get constantly harrased that bring guns to school. You honestly think if you teach a kid gun safety at a young age it means they will take a gun to school and shoot someone? That makes no sense. It's good to teach kids how guns work so they don't find it on accident and shoot themselves because they don't know how to see if it's on safety or not or if it's loaded. Also are you retarded? When you say its a conspiracy people are gonna obviously think your talking about America doing it.
despite the derogatory statement towards my kin folk, I'm going to add my two cents in this convo.I know this has been said a lot, but "guns don't kill people, people kill people" People have been killing people since there have been people on Earth, firearms are just one of the newest ways inwhich we can achieve a kill. People who want to ban guns tend to be heavy supporters in other causes such as Animal rights, or criminal rights. These people see guns as the root cause to all these other problems. Banning guns would not solve any of the gun related problems we have in this country, most criminals who use guns to commit a crime couldn't legally purchase a gun in the first place. they get their guns via blackmarket or robberies. so its safe to say that banning guns from the honest civilians in this country wouldn't stop the problem. Another problem with guns is that a lot of stupid people have them, these people are stupid because they see movies with guns are try to imitate what they saw. these people tend to be under 16, so they really don't know better. thats why I do support programs to keep guns away from children. I also think the parents have a lot of responsibilty, when they own a gun, they should either teach their kids about gun safty, or keep the guns away from their stupid children.I've been around guns all my life, I've been hunting, and I've just been out target shooting at dirt mounds. My Dad is the one who really taught me all about guns, he's been a hunter all of his life, plus he opperated a 50 cal. on a helicopter gunship in 'Nam, so he knows what he's talking about when it comes to guns. I feel very blessed that I was able to get basically the same training that a Marine would get in bootcamp reguarding firearms. Now I fully understand that not everybody is going to get this same type of schooling, but a lot of it is just basic common sense. if something is used to kill an animal with, chances are its going to kill a human being as well, but unfortinatly some people aren't smart enough to figure that out.As for the video, personally I would have waited until my kid was older.
