Game Thread GAME# 39: PISTONS @ BLAZERS - JANUARY 8, 2017 - SUNDAY, 6:00 PM (PDT), CSNNW

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Who's the better overall defender ?

Poll closed Jan 13, 2017.

  1. Lillard

    10 vote(s)
    47.6%

  2. McCollum

    11 vote(s)
    52.4%
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  1. Strenuus

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    Is this a white flag that you lost the other argument? Asking for a friend.
     
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    35 is not a lot esp when you consider what we are scoring against THEM
     
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    How so? I was told that the 57 point outburst by the Pistons backcourt happens "almost every night" when in fact, it almost never happens.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    There's so much more to the defensive breakdowns than just guards scoring against us. When they break down on the perimeter it also forces the back-end into scramble mode.
     
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    You're still wrong. How many times were 50+ scored on our backcourt this season? The most recent example took an explosion over TWO overtimes to get there. You are completely wrong, Nik.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    False quote.
     
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    You answered my friend. Thanks. Still love you, pedantic and all!
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    You're right. Damian and CJ are an amazing defensive backcourt. How could I have been so blind.
     
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    That is true and not what you said. Backcourts don't go off on us. We go off on them.
     
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    Actually, it's been 4 wins since the night of Dec. 5, 34 days ago.

    http://www.espn.com/nba/team/schedule/_/name/por

    Even if we win our next game 2 days from now, we'll have 4 wins in 36 days, right before we win that game.
     
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    I got the wrong prescriptions! I guess I have only offensive glasses.
     
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    So then, why do we lose?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    We don't. Haven't you been paying attention?
     
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    They have deficiencies and when we need a stop desperately, both wee benched, yes. But backcourt don't go off on us "almost every night" or even "more than every other night." You saw the Pistons go off on us (in TWO overtimes) and then claimed it happens all the time. You were wrong. If you're gonna slam the team, be on your game.
     
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    So, what's the right answer, then?
     
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    Difficult early season schedule
    No rim protector
    No scoring in the post
    No legit starting PF (Aminu is awesome but he is more suited to the 3)
    Injuries throughout the season to Aminu, Dame, and Turner
     
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    The right answer is don't fucking overreact to one game and claim it happens all the time. It's not fair to Dame and CJ when it's NOT TRUE.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Half of my comment was about backcourt efficiency, not just raw points. We give up 38% on threes this year. 27th in the league. Damian and CJ are a big part of that.
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/POR/2017.html#all_team_and_opponent

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    We're also 29th in the league in surrendering FTAs, that's also directly tied to guards letting their man get past them in pick and rolls and not fighting over screens. "Going off" isn't just about scoring.
     
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    There are 3 other people on the court for each team and there are bench players.
     
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