Has CJ surpassed Dame as a scorer?

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    As it stands, CJ has now scored 921 points on the season to Dame's 906 (albeit in 5 more games)--the first time in their careers that CJ has been ahead of Dame in that stat. Since Christmas, CJ is averaging 31.1 ppg. For a larger sample, CJ is averaging 25.2 ppg since the start of December, whereas Dame is averaging 24.4 in that same time.

    Have we reached the point in their development where CJ is becoming the primary scorer, and Dame can step back and take the secondary role? If so, will the team be better as a result? Or is that concept completely irrelevant? What say you?
     
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    If teams have start doubling CJ instead of Dame that can only help our team.
     
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    I think it actually would make us better in the long run that the PG is not the top scorer. However, until either of them can play defense, it seems a bit of a mute point.
     
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    He's more versatile and seems less streaky. I'd rather have him handling the ball more in half court sets.
     
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    I saw this last night and see where you are going.

    IF, and this isa BIG IF, the two will work together to win a championship, Dame will need to conceed the scoring to CJ and focus on assists and Defense.
    Id rather see Dame with stats of
    21/8/5
    Rather than 28/4/4.
     
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    If Dame were better at setting teammates up, then it'd be great for him to score less and CJ score more. But neither Dame nor CJ are our best passers, so it really doesn't matter - they are both score-first players.
     
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    I wonder if Utah fans have sat around comparing Stockton and Malone.
     
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    Because they were carbon copies of each other?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    If only it was a mute point, then maybe people would stop talking about this stuff.
    :wink:
     
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    CJ seems to be the more efficient scorer, which is what you want from your shooting guard. Realistically, having Dame paired with a more defensive minded 3/D guy would be ideal, and on the flip side CJ could be paired with someone like Steve Blake, that would be best for him. CJ reminds me a lot of Brandon Roy. It just sucks that our three best scorers are all guards.
     
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    Our record since the beginning of December doesn't give me a ton of confidence in that.
     
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    I've got to say Damian looked BAD last night. Unsure, butterfingers. Either giving up the ball too soon or jacking way-too-long threes. Hope he finds his groove again. Right now CJ looks way better. Maybe Lillard feels he has to defer a little as he works himself back into shape.
     
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    Everyone knows you only compare white to white and black to black. Just read the draft profiles if you're unsure.
     
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    Ahhhhh! MOOT, not MUTE. Moot point.
     
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    CJ's shot chart is vastly different from Dame's. Dame is 3pt and paint.

    CJ is killer in the midrange. They have different strengths and are not carbon copies on offense.

    The problem is defense. They're equally weak on that end and have the exact same deficiencies.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'm pretty sure it's a moo point, because nobody really cares what a cow thinks.
     
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    Symantics. Point being is they are too similar overall.
     
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    Does this count as an old school reference yet?

    As far as the thread's subject, it depends. If you think Lillard's current three-point percentage is representative going forward, then yes, McCollum has become the superior scorer. If you think Lillard's percentage last year is more representative, then I'd still give the edge to Lil. You can find evidence for either perspective in past seasons.

    I don't think Lillard's three-point shooting ability varies, I think he struggles to find the right balance between "shooting threes that are open" and "shooting absurd threes that break defenses if they go in." He's not Steph Curry, so the struggle is real. I think this season, he's being way too liberal with his shot selection. Maybe he'll adjust. Maybe not.
     
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    Maybe it's a mutt point because only Sly gives a rip?
     
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    Huh? It's not semantics at all.

    They work from different parts of the floor. Dame has become elite at finishing at the rim. CJ remains elite in the midrange and has the volume. They are very synergistic on offense because they are pretty damn different.

    It's on defense where their similarities are.
     

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