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Funny. I read that last bit as "no plan."

 

Considering we would have sisgned Whiteside before Crabbe got his offer sheet and Crabbe's cap hold was pretty small, we would've likely kept Crabbe too. With the $7M saved from renouncing Leonard's cap hold, we could've resigned Gerald Henderson.

Dame / CJ
CJ / Henderson
Harkless / Crabbe
Aminu / Davis
Whiteside / Plumlee

We would've been fine depth wise.

 

Considering Crabbe's our only above average shooter other than McLillard, he's a player of need, but not because of anything special about him. Just because we lack shooters in a shooter-centered offense.

 

It's "movable" as in, here "let me pay you something to take this pile of $#@* contract away from me"

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/n...e-on-the-block-a-look-at-heat-big-mans-value/

I'd trade a lot for Whiteside. Considering he admitted we were his second option, and he likely would've signed with us if he knew how bad the Heat would've been, it seems like he wants to be here. He'd be a great fit.

We'd likely have to trade Crabbe to match the salary, but Miami wouldn't want them because they're a free agent destination.

If someone wants Crabbe, then it'd be a 3-team trade were:

3rd Team (76ers?) Gets Crabbe: Sends late 1st to Miami (PHI has OKCs 2020 1st, it would likely be a later first)

To replace Crabbe, we take on Tyler Johnson, who's contract will become a behemoth in the future. Miami probably will give him up without wanting anything back anyway.

We then would likely give up our 2017 Firsts, and a 2019 first, and possibly a 4th 1st or another asset from Team 3. We'd likely give them Ezeli to balance the salaries, and Vonleh as sweetener.

So they get a boatload of 1sts, a young asset or two, and also shed $26M or so for next year. For 2019, they shed over $40M (Johnson will be making $19M). They would likely then trade Dragic for expiring contracts and 1 or 2 firsts to have 4-6 extra first round picks, and shed a full $40M for next year. We could also help them shed another $5M by taking back McRoberts in the trade, but that would put us over the Luxery Tax.

We essentially replace Crabbe with Johnson, and add Whiteside.

Lillard / CJ
CJ / Johnson
Harkless / Turner
Aminu / Davis
Whiteside / Plumlee / Leonard

Would Miami take it? Who knows. Adding that many firsts and shedding that much salary seems like the best route for them, and I would do it if I were them, even if it traded Whiteside to another team.

We'd still have assets to try and go get a Serge Ibaka type player, considering we could likely get two firsts back for Plumlee and one of Aminu/Davis. (Toronto needs a backup C, and it would be easy for them to match Plumlees incoming contract). It would be possible to get TORs and LACs 2017 1sts (Toronto has LACs 2017 first).

So it may be something like:

TOR Gets: Plumlee
ORL Gets: Poeltl, 2017 LAC and TOR 1sts, Team 4 Future 1st,
POR Gets: Ibaka
Team 4 Gets: Davis/Aminu

Lillard / CJ
CJ / Johnson
Harkless / Turner
Ibaka / Aminu
Whiteside / Leonard

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Are either of those deals likely? Hell no. Would we want to mortgage out future picks? Yes, if we protect them a bit. Both deals are creative, and would give us two top defensive big men who's offensive games compliment each other and the guards.

So while it will be nearly impossible to do what I did here, we need to pursue a couple deals LIKE THESE. We need to be creative with the assets that we kept for a reason. I wonder if Olshey has this type of creative trading in him though. He traded for Chris Paul back in the day, but that was a simple prospect for all-star swap. We need some Jerry Dipoto type trading.

 

We were Whiteside's "second choice" because he saw the potential of adding his skills to those of Dame AND CJ. Not sure we would have even been on his radar had it just been Dame and a bunch of chuckleheads...which is what we are if we trade CJ for him. Hassan might not be so happy getting traded to cold, rainy, snowy Portland if it means the team only has two kinda legit players, rather than three.

 

I think they are movable contracts tht some other teams will see value in for their team.

 

There's a way to convey info. You did that in a foolish way. Hell if I know about that site. I just came across it. Again there was no reason for your all caps soliloquy...

 

I hope olshey is really pushing for whiteside or Noel. I would throw anything at those players besides dame and cj. You never know

 

the other interesting thing you are forgetting, is bosh's contract will no longer be on the books either due to his blood clot issues. so if they make a trade that off loads a large contract or two they have an immense amount of cash to spend.

 

Wow..if we get Brook Lopez for our two 1st round picks I'd probably pull the trigger on that! Why waste time on old man Chandler?

 

Why on earth would Miami even begin to think about trading Whiteside if CJ or Dame were not involved?

 

Yeah, that blogger looks like a reliable source, he looks like he's about 13.

 

isn't there some reporter that is a pretty big deal and has been doing it for like 12 years that's only like 25 or 26 or something? he got started in biz when he was like 14 or 15 or something crazy like that.
not sayin that's him, just saying, its possible...I guess lol

 

I see Alexis Ajinca wants out of New Orleans. Has about 4 more inches wingspan and standing reach than anyone on our roster, averages over 11 rebounds per 36 and almost two blocks. BUT, New Orleans defensive rating made a huge improvement with him out of the lineup. and he has no offensive game.

 

Alex Kennedy is who you are thinking of, I believe.

 

Sometimes when starting over, you don't want long, large contracts.