CIA: Russia influenced the election

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Duh.

    This was an "october surprise" pack of lies prepared to use in case the media and clinton campaign felt it was needed. They were convinced of an easy win, so they didn't.

    How trustworthy is any of the sources of this shit if buzzfeed could get it? Must have been the Russians hacked into the CIA and gave the file to buzzfeed. Or something.
     
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    Well if you worship WikiLeaks......(Assange hates his old partner and says it's not trustworthy anymore)....Snowden is exiled to Russia...hey....problem as I see it is that folks latch onto sources via internet and choose what facts to base the discourse from. What leaks is probably extremely selective so buckle up for more sensationalized news feed...for somebody who claims to mistrust the media....you sure source them a lot in discussions Denny. I questioned WikiLeaks transparency when it first became a news hub.....now Assange claims it's tainted. What I do know is that we only get a piece of the puzzle at best. I'm interested in how things unfold moving ahead so there's a lot to absorb...life it seems IS a process of elimination. Replacing a septic tank with another full septic tank is sort of what things look like from the cheap seats....Trump strikes me as totally unprepared for the multiple tasks at hand he will soon face
     
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    WikiLeaks hasn't published anything false.

    If someone at the CIA fed this to buzzfeed, they belong in prison, no? What was their motive?

    When I source the media, it's YOUR favorite media, mostly. Or that proves how silly most of the tweets are here.
     
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    What's most important though is not conflicts of interest, taxes, Russia, a concrete plan of Trump to replace ACA, or crazies in the Trump cabinet. What the people really want to know is what Donald Trump thinks of Meryl Streep and SNL. These are the pressing issues of the day.
     
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    And you know this because?
    Hint: THEY don't even know that.
     
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    You may be right about that....I don't know nor do I trust Assange to tell the truth...I'm not a WikiLeaks worshiper....could so easily be false or influenced without exposing the man behind the curtain. People can make information look damned official and convincing and assholes can hide behind layers of talking head spin doctors
     
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    assumption fail....but woof back at ya
     
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    Donald Trump. It eats him up that she got more votes than him. The final words he says on his deathbed will be about how he could've got more if he'd wanted to.
     
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    Hint: Nobody's claimed they published false documents.
     
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    This really is pretty compelling:


     
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    Other than a few periodicals I read, it's interesting that most of my media input is garned here from mostly you and rasta.....and I take most of it with a grain of salt......I'm an old dog....new tricks don't take easily...my values are really all I trust and the OT section here at your internet pub is where I choose to express my old dog values...usually in my own words
     
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    Assange has claimed it
     
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    He has? I don't recall ever seeing anything like that.

    At first, Podesta claimed one of the early emails released wasn't legit, but he backed off that lie.
     
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    Re: fake sources:
     
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    Denny has really taken Trump's playbook to heart.....
     
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    Oh, that settles it then.
     
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    well hey....how about that
     
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    I love Tim Kaine. What a liar.

    Kaine specifically mentioned one email on Meet the Press that referenced him and "was flat-out completely incorrect."

    Kaine is talking about an email in the Podesta dump that this month fueled rumorsClinton had picked Kaine as her choice for running mate in 2015. The July 25, 2015, email was from political consultant Erick Mullen, and the subject was "Bob Glennon." The Clinton campaign would not confirm the authenticity of the email or identify who Glennon is.

    But the email suggests Glennon had told two Democratic senators — Sherrod Brown of Ohio and Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota — that Clinton had already told Kaine he was her vice presidential pick.

    Mullen wrote that Glennon "Won't stop assuring Sens Brown and Heitkamp (at dinner now) that HRC has personally told Tim Kaine he's the veep. A little unseemly."

    The email does not, however, indicate whether Glennon’s information was correct, nor do we have anything but Kaine’s word to refute the idea that he knew about his nomination in advance. We reached out to Mullen, but he declined to comment.

    We do know, though, that no one has doctored this particular email. Well-known hacker Robert Graham verified the email’s digital signature, a tool email providers use to confirm that an email actually came from the provider’s server without alteration.​
     
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    So just like Wikileaks, then.
     
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