The Great Debate---Bosh, Jefferson, Howard, Bynum, or Amare?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (moses2121 @ Feb 7 2007, 11:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Garbage...what do you mean by that? Just because he is a good rebounder and gets a lot of offensive boards doesn't mean that is garbage. I mean all big man get a lot of those tip in's and put backs. Howard can't create shots from the outside but when he is inside he is pretty much unstoppable.</div>No, he gets what we call garbage points, meaning anything that bounces off the rim, and he generates alot of points off that stuff.

 

I think over the next 3 years it'll be Amare. He has had an amazing comeback and I think he will continue his improvement. He has a great offensive game...you can talk about Nash and the Suns offense but Amare, in his second year, was already scoring 20 and on his way to getting better. And he will only get better from what he's shown this year. He has had some very high scoring games lately, but once he gets the few more inches on his vert that he wants and a little more of that quickness back he will be very dominant. His jump shot is now pretty good too, very reliable. His defense has also been better and will continue to improve. Right now he has more rebounds(as a starter) than he did before and he's playing less minutes. He is also getting just as many blocks without being at 100%, and not just all off the ball blocks, he has gotten right up on his man and rejected shots that way too(he's in the top 5 in blocked dunks and also I read that he's also in the top 5 in a stat that determines how much teams try to score inside when a defensive player is on the floor. He has become a pretty intimidating defender). He just had a pretty nice defensive effort against Duncan too and Howard didn't do much against him, even in the game when he wasn't in serious foul trouble.But for the future, I choose Dwight Howard out of the 5. That's mostly because Amare's knee injury will cut the dominant years of his career short. Dwight is the best defender out of the group by far and still gets a decent amount of points. He's still very, very young and I see him improving his offensive game. If he just improves his jumper and gets a couple more offensive moves I could see him as the best.

 

Well, Bosh can create more for himself because he isnt the normal PF player. He can play on the perimeter better than most power forwards. Although Dwight gets alot of points off of offensive rebounds, alley oops, and dunks, I think he still has a decent post move game. I think he just isnt as confident in his game yet for some reason. Everytime I watch him play, he has 1 or 2 great post moves. He just needs to do them more consistently.This is my order...1. Dwight Howard2. Amare Stoudemire3. Chris Bosh4. Andrew Bynum5. Al JeffersonI would have Drew 3rd above Bosh, but Bosh has played way too well this year, and even though Bynum has a hell of alot of potential, and I think he is going to be great, I just have to see him do it for a full season first.

 

Why is Bynum on here? I mean he is a FANTASTIC big but, I don't think all the guys on this thread have seen enough of him to fairly judge him.

 

It's funny because between them all there's 1 year of college experience but I think it still could be either one of themBosh has excelled the most thoughHe is so versatile and can do so many things..and he's proven he can be a leader which none of the rest can saylike somebody said they all have potential to be 25 and 10 guys..it just depends on if they're willing to work on their gamesI say in order of development so far:1. Bosh2. Howard/Stoudemire3. Howard/Stoudemire4. Bynum/Jefferson5. Bynum/JeffersonI think they all have potential to be amazing and franchise players and big men if they work on their gamesand considering they all have great players teaching them (Abdul-Jabaar with Bynum for instance..) they should all have great careers and all be all stars (Al and Bynum haven't yet but will one day)I love all of their gamesthe thing the one I watch the most (Jefferson) needs to work on is his defensehe falls for those flops and lean ins all the time

 

I like Bynum's chances. Anytime you got Kobe on the court with you, it's going to be good. Just look at how good Shaq became with Kobe

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Feb 8 2007, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, Bosh can create more for himself because he isnt the normal PF player. He can play on the perimeter better than most power forwards. Although Dwight gets alot of points off of offensive rebounds, alley oops, and dunks, I think he still has a decent post move game. I think he just isnt as confident in his game yet for some reason. Everytime I watch him play, he has 1 or 2 great post moves. He just needs to do them more consistently.This is my order...1. Dwight Howard2. Amare Stoudemire3. Chris Bosh4. Andrew Bynum5. Al JeffersonI would have Drew 3rd above Bosh, but Bosh has played way too well this year, and even though Bynum has a hell of alot of potential, and I think he is going to be great, I just have to see him do it for a full season first.</div>I agree with Bosh that he isn't that normal PF because he has such good range which is rare for big man, Dirk is another one like Bosh too. But in the future it is easily Dwight Howard this guy has so much potential and has already progressed a lot so far from high school I think this guy will be a completely dominant center in about 2 to 3 years. He is already averaging about 18 and 12 ppg and is capable of exploding for big games. I would put Stoudemire third just for the fact that the knee injury is somewhat limiting his game although not too much. Him and Dwight Howard are very similar as they both don't have jumpshots and don't really create for themselves like Bosh does. Stoudemire is better than Dwight Howard but in the future I think Amare's knee is really going to hurt him.My order...1.Dwight Howard2.Chris Bosh3.Amare Stoudemire4.Andrew Bynum5.Al Jefferson

 

Dwight Howard then Amare! Howard is going to be sick. He's the closest thing to Wilt Chamberlin we've seen!