Guns Make People Safe

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  1. Jade Falcon

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    That depends. Was the kid in the process of shooting people?
     
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    I think the kids should all have guns to defend themselves from the teachers.
     
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  3. Jade Falcon

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    Which also don't take into consideration whether or not they are locked up and secured. Nor do those numbers take into consideration stability within individual families.

    There's a guy on YouTube who does DemolitionRanch. He owns more guns than his local sheriff's office, and yet he has an amazing family and perfect stability.

    I've had guns in my house since I was 21. I'm 33, and I'm still alive. I currently have 6.
     
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    No, this imaginary kid was fighting the teacher because she pulled a gun on him.
     
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    Oddly enough, every gun owner does not die from being shot. Hard to believe I know.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Yep.

    Maybe the rules need to be changed.
     
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    Yes, I think this imaginary circumstance will really get the ball rolling.
     
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  8. Jade Falcon

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    Not every gun owner has their life threatened by a gun either, so what's your point?

    Check out this guy on YouTube through DemolitionRanch, then tell me he's more of a threat to himself or his family.
     
  9. Jade Falcon

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    Why did she pull a gun on him?
     
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    http://education.findlaw.com/teachers-rights/teachers-rights-tenure-and-dismissal.html

    Most states protect teachers in public schools from arbitrary dismissal through tenure statutes. Under these tenure statutes, once a teacher has attained tenure, his or her contract renews automatically each year. School districts may dismiss tenured teachers only by a showing of cause, after following such procedural requirements as providing notice to the teacher, specifying the charges against the teacher, and providing the teacher with a meaningful hearing. Most tenure statutes require teachers to remain employed during a probationary period for a certain number of years. Once this probationary period has ended, teachers in some states will earn tenure automatically. In other states, the local school board must take some action to grant tenure to the teacher, often at the conclusion of a review of the teacher's performance. Tenure also provides some protection for teachers against demotion, salary reductions, and other discipline. However, tenure does not guarantee that a teacher may retain a particular position, such as a coaching position, nor does it provide indefinite employment.
     
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    My point is that a great predictor for whether or not you are a victim of gun violence is whether or not there is a gun in the house.
     
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    Because she is based
     
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    Really? What if you have 10? vs none? Grunch the numbers.
     
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    What is more likely:

    You use your gun against someone trying to kill you.

    Or

    Your gun gets used to blow your own brains out.
     
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    By that logic, then it's also a great predictor if I'm the dead victim of a violent criminal, rather than alive and safe.

    I know a guy, my buddy Ken, who's a doctor and at one time had about 70 guns.

    Nicest guy in the world. But apparently, according to 3R here, he's a dropped teacup away from going on a rampage.

    That I use my gun to protect myself.

    But that's speaking for MYSELF. Your supposed statistics do not take each individual gun owner's life into account. It's taken from crime statistics in the inner cities and anti-gun organizations who cherry pick government statistics to fill their agenda.
     
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    i know a guy that has guns, and he has never killed anyone.

    And other irrelevant anecdotes.
     
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    So is your opinion that a gun makes me more likely to kill myself.

    I have tons of electrical equipment in my apartment. But if I go to an office building in down town Portland, am I more likely to be electrocuted there than my apartment? There's a lot more electrical equipment in an office building than anywhere in my apartment complex.
     
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    I have a friend that is killing himself right now, with booze.
     
  19. 3RA1N1AC

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    If I have a bomb in my house, am I more or less likely to be blown up by a bomb?
     
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