See ya Planned Parenthood. Disgusting practices.

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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  3. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Strawman.

    Untrue. I posted YOU real information from the Government report, and their press release last week. Your own choice to ignore that and call that #debunked. That report was not debunked.

    It's funny you denounce any site you don't agree with as fakenews. I read many different sites to get all sorts of different angles. Brietbart just linked to the Government report which is on the .GOV bro. Get over yourself.
     
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    You could have quoted me on that. But thats your style.

    I am just glad there are still honest people out there willing to share a life with a spouse instead of keeping secrets. I pity someone who thinks its ok for spouses to keep secrets.
     
  6. Denny Crane

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    from you.
     
  7. Spud147

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    Strawman, LOL. So is your abortion soapbox, you even admit that in an earlier post.

    Again, the government report does not accuse PP as an organization of committing the illegal acts. They found a couple individual clinics/doctors in New Mexico involved in criminal activity.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    He's a broken digital clock. Gives no info worth anything.
     
  9. Denny Crane

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    He made no straw man argument.
     
  10. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    It's a strawman argument. You're assuming a ton about the users of PP when you start linking poverty and crime rates in with this discussion. I will not go down that road because its a strawman argument that I wasn't even making, refuting, in the first place.



    Planned Parenthood guilty of $13 million in abuse of taxpayer funds, other illegal activity, says report
    1.) https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/n...s-planned-parenthood-taxpayer-abuse-of-nearly


    "Planned Parenthood affiliates and clinics have repeatedly neglected their fiduciary duty requiring good stewardship of federal taxpayer dollars through the following: careless management and failed compliance with Medicaid billing procedures; violating federal laws and regulations pertaining to patient consent and the privacy rights of their patients; changing the method of abortion to increase procurement of fetal tissue for which they received a per tissue payment; and a general disinterest in clinical integrity. The Panel recommends that Planned Parenthood lose all federal funding, including reimbursements for Medicaid services."


    Page 33 of the report: https://energycommerce.house.gov/si...s/Select_Investigative_Panel_Final_Report.pdf

    1) The Panel discovered that the University of New Mexico may have been violating its state’s Anatomical Gift Act by receiving tissue from a late-term abortion clinic (Southwestern Women’s Options). Referred to the Attorney General of New Mexico.

    2 & 3) The Panel conducted a forensic accounting analysis of StemExpress’ limited production and determined that it may have been profiting from the sale of baby body parts. Referral sent to El Dorado, California, District Attorney, and the U.S. Department of Justice.

    4) The Panel learned that StemExpress and certain abortion clinics may have violated the HIPAA privacy rights of vulnerable women for the sole purpose of increasing the harvesting of fetal tissue to make money. Referred to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.


    2.) https://oversight.house.gov/release/hearing-wrap-planned-parenthoods-taxpayer-funding/

    TAKEAWAYS:


    • Planned Parenthood does not need federal subsidies.
    • Planned Parenthood is self-sustaining.
      • Reported revenue of $1.3 billion in their most recent annual report.
      • Reported $127 million in net income and reported holding $1.4 billion in assets for 2013-2014.
    • Salaries at Planned Parenthood are lucrative.
      • President Cecile Richards was paid more than $2.47 million from 2009 to 2013, including $590,928 in 2013.
      • A significant number of Planned Parenthood executives earn in excess of $200,000 annually.
    • Planned Parenthood spends millions on travel, galas and real estate.
      • Spends nearly $14,000 a day on travel.
      • Spent $34.8 million in 2011 to purchase corporate office space two blocks from Madison Square Garden.
    • Taxpayer dollars subsidize Planned Parenthood’s political affiliates.
    • Planned Parenthood’s claim that only “three percent” of all health services provided are abortion services is false.
    • Over the last decade, cancer screenings at Planned Parenthood are declining while abortions are increasing.
    • Numerous alternatives to Planned Parenthood exist.

    The press release: https://energycommerce.house.gov/ne...ect-investigative-panel-releases-final-report

    "The Select Investigative Panel has worked hard to uncover the illegal and highly repulsive activities of the organizations involved in the sale and trafficking of baby body parts. Now it is up to the judicial system to hold the perpetrators accountable and up to Congress and the new Administration to see that these heinous acts are continued no longer. The way we treat our young, our weak, and our voiceless does matter. History will hold us accountable for these atrocities," said Congressman Joseph R. Pitts.


    I created this thread to talk about the sale of body parts by PP, and the illegal activities that the report alleges. My stance on this organization is that I do not want to federally fund it. Period. If they want to operate and operate within the laws then they can do so by taking donations, or being self-sustaining as the oversight hearing found.
     
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    And you're assuming a ton when you say that all woman can get what they need from a normal doctor or over the counter. The return on investment from offering low/no cost birth control to people is through the roof. Even for profit health insurance companies have figured that out.
     
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    I am not opposed to low cost/no cost bc at all. I have never stated that. And defunding PP (from Fed funds) wont ruin that.

    It's amazing to me that their President takes a salary of 2.4Million over those years . I'd love to hear DVISS position on the salary of the PP President, and their execs. Interesting numbers and from his previous positions about compensation, it would be interesting to listen to his take.

    Luckily there are alternatives to Planned Parenthood.
     
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    Off topic a bit, but I'm curious what people's thoughts are if a woman claims to be on birth control, but actually is not and secretly wants to get pregnant from the guy, gets pregnant, and now wants child support from the father. It's her body. She chose not to use birth control, but now the guy has no choice whether to pay child support because he was lied to.

    Before anyone says, "there's no 100% guarantee that birth control works," in this scenario, the guy wouldn't have had sex with her had she not lied, or at least would have worn protection.
     
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    That salary doesn't seem unreasonable.
     
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    Shit happens in life. If the worst that happens is you end up having a kid then you're not doing too bad.
     
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    Thanks Sly..I'll add, I think it's too much for a President of a Fed-Funded (taxpayer) position. But, I don't care how much the person makes after we stop funding them.
     
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    ALWAYS wrap-before-you-tap.

    Since we're going slight OT here, check this out (man convicted of rape because he removed condom during consensual sex) ; http://www.aol.com/article/news/201...ring-sex/21653990/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000058&
     
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    Obviously this woman can't be trusted because she's a liar and the guy should be wearing a condom. Unwanted pregnancy is the least of your worries with that Slore. :evilfire:
     
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    1/3 of PP's funding comes from Medicare and Federal and State grants. That is actually in line with what other large healthcare providers receive in government money. Note that many of these very large healthcare providers perform abortions.
     
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    See post #110
     

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