Awfully quiet about the snubs in here...

Sure, but the people that vote are human and Dame has not been playing at an all star level lately. That's bound to influence their voting.

He's also playing at a time when the PG position is the deepest it's ever been. Dame wasn't the only PG that got snubbed. CP3 didn't make it and neither did Mike Conley. Both play for teams with much better records. Both are averaging more APG and shooting significantly better from 3-point range than Dame (.401 for Conley, .395 for Paul to .341 for Dame), and most importantly, both are light years better defensively than Dame. And, neither one of them made it either.

BNM

 

I'm going to disagree. Harden has been an absolute ghost on defense for his entire career. Hilariously bad on defense. Dame gets a lot of shit for his defense, but he wasn't THAT bad until recently.

 

1 - Snub?
2 - Care about a meaningless game / award?
3 - Not only meaningless, but unwatchable.

 

Yes he was; but by size and strength alone Harden is miles ahead of _ame (when he wants to be) _ame doesnt even have good defense he could play if he wanted to. That to me is the difference.

 

By your own standard, if we consider performance to date, Klay is shooting .396 3FG% and .526 2FG% vs. Dame at .341 3FG% and .506 2FG% for the season. Dame is averaging 5 more PPG, but he's the #1 option on his team and Klay is the #3 option on his team. Klay is more efficient, plays defense and his team is 39-7.

BNM

 

With blackjack and hookers?

 

But it is bad; very, very bad.

Harden scores 3 more PPG, hands out twice as many assists (leads the entire league, Dame's not even in the top 20) and averages twice as many rebounds. And his team is 34-15.

Yeah, I hate Harden, but the facts speak for themselves.

BNM

 

LMFAO.

Sorry, but if you're putting up the next offensive stats out of any player to ever not make the all-star game, then you're a snub. Plain and simple.

 

Factoids like that aren't that compelling, in my opinion. Someone has to have "the best offensive stats out of all players not making the All Star team." If Lillard had made it, it would be the next person on the list. Would that guy (whomever he is) then be a snub? If that guy made an All Star team, then the next guy would be. And on and on.

I prefer to look at the entirety of a player's value in determining if he's a snub. Based on his overall offensive and defensive value, I think he's among a group of players who are All Star caliber but not no-doubt All Stars. Lillard could have been selected of that group, and that would have been great. I don't think it's an injustice that he wasn't.

 

You gotta be fucking kidding me... Stop. Just stop.

 

"Hey, you did really good work on that report 6 months ago. But these reports lately you've been giving me have not been up to that. Ah, what the hell, we'll let you in to the office all stars for that thing you did 6 months ago."

It's what you've done for me lately. People remember that more than what you did months ago. It's a society thing.

Dame has hit untold amount of great shots in his career already. But .9 is a distant (albeit amazing) memory when lately he's been bad.

Trade Dame threads weren't happening when he was putting up 30 a game... hitting clutch shots. It's when he started to regress lately. Its not a coincidence with that... or that he didn't get an AS nod.

It's not a snub. Not even close. Cumulative does not mean consistently.

 

Fuck the All-Star Game.









With the Draft Lottery

 

"Hello, credibility? This is chzbrgr. Yeah, you know, from RipCityTwo.com. Go fuck yourself, I never want to see you again. I have a restraining order."

 

Lillard has made two all NBA team. This could be his 3rd. It represents his accomplishments for the whole season, not half the season. How many make it for All NBA? 15? While the All star team has 24....

I would argue the All NBA team is much more prestigious and you can spend the week in Hawaii instead.

 

I agree. All-NBA is league-wide. It's like the difference between All-Pro and Pro Bowl in the NFL--All-Pro is more prestigious.

People really just need to look at the All Star game as a fun exhibition game, rather than as serious analysis and evaluation. In fact, I wish the NBA hadn't muddied the waters by adding a players' and coaches' vote for the starters. I'd rather the starters (and, in fact, the whole roster) were chosen by fans. That makes it elegant and clear--this isn't to honor the best players by deep statistical analysis. This is to honor players that people want to see play. Period.

Look to All-NBA for "serious awards."

 

Um we had a whole thread about it.

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/all-star-reserves.308797/page-6#post-4072320