<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Feb 14 2007, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey, the black guys know more about their music dan sum wigger. Maybe they have a point? They don't argue with you guys what bluegrass groups are better, do they? </div>Actually I bet the guy who said that was probably white with Eminem posters all around his room.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Feb 14 2007, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey, the black guys know more about their music dan sum wigger. Maybe they have a point? They don't argue with you guys what bluegrass groups are better, do they? </div>First off I hope the wigger comment wasn't directed to me because I'm definetly not one. Second of all like Heatfan already said it was probably a white kid who said that. Then again most black people in my grade also listen to that crap so who knows.
uh I know the 10 greatest rap albums of time!yes I do .. :happy0144: but im busy getting all my 10 thousand songs back onto my ipod soo I can't do this it till its done, but it will be soon.
My 10 favourite to listen to ( Please don't burn lol)1. Illmatic ( Of course )2. All eyez On Me3. Get rich or Die Tryin' ( Just good club stuff )4. Hip Hop is Dead5. Doggystyle6. The Chronic7. Dr.Dre 20018. The eminem show9. Enter the Wu10. Beautiful Struggle
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Feb 14 2007, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's not a big deal if he thinks that, but it just annoys the crap out of me how many people these days think that these popular rappers are actually talented and that they are some of the greatest of all time. I just want people to realize that these rappers aren't talented even if they still prefer to listen to them. I mean it just bugs the crap out of me reading iTunes reviews for songs and seeing people type..."N1GGA dis sh*t is hot jim jones put a hot beat on ndis sh*t and itz catchy as hell! BALLLLLLLLLLLLIN!</div>whoa whoa whoa, never in hell have I mentioned T.I. is one of the greats. Get your facts right before you start jumping outta your chair. And T.I. <u>is</u> one of the good ones in this era of Hip-Hop. I thought this topic was about your favorite top 10 albums. There's no "official" top 10 albums of all time. Not everybody share the same opinion about this album or that album. After what you said, I would'nt be surprised if any of those people who put Illmatic in their list, actually just listed the album in their list to avoid being flamed. ASU, it's not proven but I read somewhere that 70% of Hip-Hop's audience are white. But I ain't one of 'em.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ultimate @ Feb 15 2007, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>whoa whoa whoa, never in hell have I mentioned T.I. is one of the greats. Get your facts right before you start jumping outta your chair. And T.I. <u>is</u> one of the good ones in this era of Hip-Hop. I thought this topic was about your favorite top 10 albums. There's no "official" top 10 albums of all time. Not everybody share the same opinion about this album or that album. After what you said, I would'nt be surprised if any of those people who put Illmatic in their list, actually just listed the album in their list to avoid being flamed. ASU, it's not proven but I read somewhere that 70% of Hip-Hop's audience are white. But I ain't one of 'em.</div>I wasn't directing that comment to you. I was directing it to all the retards who think that rappers like Jik Jones are great. It wasn't supposed to be commented at anyone directly.
Illmatic is not number 1!! omg there's better things out there than that particular album .. im not saying it's a bad album at all, it's actually a excellent album but people have to relise albums have come out before and after illmatic which have been just as good lyricaly and aswell as the production.. people overrate this album quite a bit and when people make a album look overrated it rubs off on it IMO!my opinion or mabye im just a nas hater xDS.O.N.O.G.R.A.M. - One Be Loomg that album is near perfect ^ welll not really . but it's great, can't be stuffed naming a top ten right now.
How is Illmatic overrated?Most of today's kids don't even know about Illmatic...but it's generally agreed on as a classic by hip hop headseven look on amazon.com539 reviews and the average rating is a 5/5
Half the good Hip Hop albums are rated 5/5 on Amazon.anyway thats not my point, my point is that there albums as good as Illmatic out there and from what im seeing is that everyone think's Illmatic is like the only amazing album to come out in the early 90's, people overrate this album as in saying it's like the best thing in the universe, it's the only real hip hop album out there etc etc .. now im not saying it's not a amazing album at all, because it is .. it's just the people out there make it seem like it's a masterpiece and perfection to the max in rap music.. and for nas ... has he made a album on the same level as illmatic yet ? nope, not really! :no3:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Amare320 @ Feb 17 2007, 01:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and for nas ... has he made a album on the same level as illmatic yet ? nope, not really! :no3:</div>Has Wu Tang done anything as good as Enter the Wu Tang (36 Chambers)? No. has Dre done anything as good as Chronic? No. How about Jay-Z and Reasonable Doubt? No. How about the Fugees with The Score? Nope. 2Pac never did anything that can be considered top 5 all time. In other words, most rappers have 1 album that is in the elite, and everyhting else usually falls short. BUT, It Was Written is a top 20 album all time IMO, and Stillmatic, God's Son and Lost Tapes are all very good. So no, while he hasn't done anything as good as Illmatic (NO one has), it isn't like he is a 1 hit wonder.
I could name many .. groups and single artist'sSpice 1 ? Spice 1, 187 He Wrote, AmeriKKKa's Nightmare & 1990-Sick are all very good albums there all pretty equal.Biggie Smalls, Life After Death, Ready 2 DieBrand Nubian's albumsPublic Enemy ?Eric B & RakimA Tribe Called QuestIce Cube ? he's had many very outstanding albums .. better than nas's follow ups.I could name more but I haven't really got the view of my music right now so..im not downing nas or calling him a one hit wonder, it's just that some other artist's out there were more consistin throught there career in making top albums.n I can't think off the top of my head were someones done 2 amazing albums but im sure there's some even though it may have not been recgonized hugely.btw I was just listing to H to the Omo by nas, god damn he's a amazing lyricaly.
[quote name='Amare320' post='290681' date='Feb 17 2007, 01:56 AM']Biggie Smalls, Life After Death, Ready 2 Die[/quote]Life After death wasn't on Ready To Die's level, and I prefer It Was Written to Life After death. I'll give you PE. Fear of a Black Planet and It Takes A Nation To Hold Us Back were both fantastic and about equal (although neither crack my top 10). Nothing they did was as good as Paid In Full (which I never cared for in the first place). I'll give you ATCQ. Low End Theory and Midnight Marauder swere both damn good, although I feel Midnight Marauders is a top 10 album while Low End Theory barely cracks my top 20. Similar to how I feel about Illmatic and It Was Written. There is not 1 Ice Cube album I'd even consider top 15. Basically what I'm saying is that most rappers and groups have only 1 truly great album. It is very rare for a rapper or rap group to have 2 albums in contention for top 20 all time. I feel nas has this with Illmatic and It was Written, and that is rare. maybe it's because he has made so many albums that makes him seem not very consistent, but he has had 5 good-very good albums, 2 of them being great (Illmatic, It was Written, God's Son, Stillmatic and The Lost Tapes).
what are you talking about, Ice Cube has come out with 4 great albums AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, Lethal Injection, The Predator & Death Certificateand it's not particularly nas that's overrated, it's Illmatic itself as iv'e said before.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Amare320 @ Feb 17 2007, 01:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Half the good Hip Hop albums are rated 5/5 on Amazon.</div>Find me 5 off the spot that have over 500 reviews with a 5/5 average...I'm sure you won't be able to...nah I know you won't be able toIt's agreed as a classic and a landmark in rapObviously it isn't the only real hip hop album and the max of what hip hop can be..You're just being a HUGE hater
lmao you called nas overrated?I don't know how the best rapper EVER can be overrated.I really want to see you defend this one.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Feb 17 2007, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lmao you called nas overrated?I don't know how the best rapper EVER can be overrated.I really want to see you defend this one.</div>He didnt say nas is overated, he said Illmatic is, and I think on this board is. However Nas is not overrated, but I certainly would not call him a better rapper than the ones we see today.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Feb 17 2007, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He didnt say nas is overated, he said Illmatic is, and I think on this board is. However Nas is not overrated, but I certainly would not call him a better rapper than the ones we see today.</div>Which rapper today is better than Nas?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dmoney @ Feb 17 2007, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Which rapper today is better than Nas?</div>What sorry, I meant all time, I mean today, you can make an arguement for recent rappers who left the underground, Papoose for one, I think has real lyrical talent. I really have always been a fan of Ludacris, (though some of you are going to say he is a snob and rhymes for pussy) but I think he is up there, and you can really argue this. But for sure, Nas is not the best ever.To add, his really great to really bad album ratio can also be noted. I mean Illmatic, Stillmatic, and Hip Hop is Dead, are great, but not many of you have heard God's Son, Street's Disciple, and I am, as much as you have raced about Illmatic have you?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Feb 17 2007, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What sorry, I meant all time, I mean today, you can make an arguement for recent rappers who left the underground, Papoose for one, I think has real lyrical talent. I really have always been a fan of Ludacris, (though some of you are going to say he is a snob and rhymes for pussy) but I think he is up there, and you can really argue this. But for sure, Nas is not the best ever.</div>I agree with you though, even though I think Nas is the best ever everyone had their own opinion. I mean you could ask like 500 people about who they think is the best ever and they could all have different answers. I also like a few artists that some people may consider "whack" but I don't think their the best ever or even in the top 10, like I'll admit I don't like 50,llyod Banks, and others but there may be a few songs I like from them. I also like luda I like his song runaway love.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Feb 17 2007, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What sorry, I meant all time, I mean today, you can make an arguement for recent rappers who left the underground, Papoose for one, I think has real lyrical talent. I really have always been a fan of Ludacris, (though some of you are going to say he is a snob and rhymes for pussy) but I think he is up there, and you can really argue this. But for sure, Nas is not the best ever.To add, his really great to really bad album ratio can also be noted. I mean Illmatic, Stillmatic, and Hip Hop is Dead, are great, but not many of you have heard God's Son, Street's Disciple, and I am, as much as you have raced about Illmatic have you?</div>I heard basically all his albums, maybe not every song on it but I heard at least like 3 songs from all of his albums, but mostly more than 3.
