Merged: blazers linked to serge ibaka

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  1. Denny Crane

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    Seems to me Orlando is getting a poor deal, even with a couple of picks.
     
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    Is it that you don't think they'd value Rudy Gay, or that they'd just generally expect more in return for Ibaka/Vucevic? If the latter, how much more do you think?
     
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    The Magic are not going to trade both Ibaka and Vucevic, unless they get a starting caliber center or a very high lottery draft pick back.

    Trading both bigs would mean starting Biyombo, who has had 3 good games in his entire career. They are not happy with Biyombo.
     
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    Shocked. Absolutely shocked. Oh wait, no I'm not!
     
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    Been looking at the Magic forum--their fans are pretty well resigned to dealing both Ibaka and Vucevic and going full rebuild. However, they don't really want anything that we would offer, so I'll drop my pipe dream trade proposal.
     
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    Don't want Gay, and want way more for Vucevic. I think they're mostly interested in getting value for Ibaka, not gutting their team to do so.
     
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    Don't drop your trade idea, I just believe it needs some tweaking. Just my opinion, a senile old guy.

    There appears to be a huge disconnect between what the Magic fans want and expect, and what their GM does. He is probably following the orders of the owner, another senile old guy. No telling what he might do.

    Plus dreaming up and debating trade ideas is fun.
     
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    Gay makes no sense for a team looking to rebuild. He'll be 31 by the time he next sets foot on a basketball court. They're try to trade Ibaca, because at 27 he's too old to fit in with their future plans.

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    Don't know why the hell they traded Dipo and Sabonis for him in the first place.
     
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    They've been waffing back and forth between rebuild and win now for the last two or three years. That day, was an, "I think we can win now" day.

    Today appears to be a rebuild day.

    No wonder Scott Skiles fled that mess. If there is one thing I know about Scott Skiles, it's that he hates to lose. They were constantly telling him he needed to play the younger players so they could develop, but also harping on him about the team's record. He didn't make that mess, but they wanted to blame it on him. No, Frank Vogel is in the exact same boat.

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    "The Serge Protector" LOLOL
     
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    Orlando GM Hennigan held a luncheon meeting this afternoon. A person at the meeting posted a very good report of the meeting. Hennigan was very open and answered all questions dealing with past trades and moves, and goals for the future.

    If you want to read the entire report, go to RealGM Orlando forum, Hennigan Luncheon thread. If you do not want to read the entire thread, I believe the report is on page 5, about half way down, post #93.

    Here are highlight quotes concerning the possible Ibaka trade.

     
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    elf, gordon, and vuc are 21, 22, and 26
    Butler is 27, Dragic is 30.

    Miami or Chicago would be taking a big risk in the hopes of resigning "the surge protector".
     
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