Guns Make People Safe

Just be sure you take my entire post into context.

And NO, nobody on here believes illegals and felons should own guns. I've not seen one post on this entire forum that says that.

Tell that to gang bangers in Chicago. Most of them are felons, but it doesn't stop them from getting a gun.

Then the courts need to start prosecuting criminals using laws that are already on the books, and stop making more of them until they do.

What's the point in making more laws if you're not going to enforce them?

 

OK, you got us. We are coming for your guns. Just turn then in now and no one will get hurt.

 

Speaking of guns, can I just say....this new CZ P10C makes my trousers tight....







That barrel is thick as hell.

This could be the new Glock 19 killer.

I can't wait to see MAC put it through the gauntlet in the Spring.

 

C'mon. Turn them in. I know Karate.

 

Saying that Maris does not believe in any further gun laws means that he believes that illegals and felons should have guns (your words) is bullshit Sly, and you know it. I'm surprised I need to explain that to you.

Chicago is notorious for having a revolving door of felons and criminals in the Justice System because of political bias, PC feelings (appeasing community leaders), gross over-population of jails and prisons, lack of LE/jail staff personnel, and overall lax control of its current enforcement of laws.

Everyone knows this, and it's far from a mystery.

 

MOST gun owners feel that they should be able to loan their private property to those WHOM THEY TRUST without question. It's MY private property, and I'm hardly going to just give it to some crack head on the corner.

Loaning a gun to a family member or TRUSTED, RESPONSIBLE friend is MY business. Not the government's.

Contrary to popular Leftist belief, this does NOT mean that gun owners condone giving guns away to strangers for free. That's strait up bullshit.

 

Negative. I'm supporting that they be prosecuted at the Federal Level using laws that are already on the books, and using sentences that COUNT. Not 5 year stints with parole in 2.

Put these bastards away for a mandatory 10 or 15, and get them out of our society. There's no parole at the Federal level.

 

I'll know about it, and I won't give it to them. In fact, it wouldn't even be a conversation with me.

ETA: I don't personally associate with Felons, so any family member who is wouldn't get so much as a conversation from me except at family gatherings, and no friend is a friend of mine who has a felony record.

That eliminates 99% of the issue right there.

 

The 2nd Amendment applies to both Naval Ships and Cannons.

The Brown Bess was .75 Caliber rendering it a Title II Weapon more specifically a "destructive device" in the same group as grenades, mortars, rocket launchers, large projectiles, and other heavy ordnance nowadays.

People owned grenades, mortars at the time also. (I'm joking)

• Switzerland's carry laws are highly regulated and very restricted. Other than militia members transporting their firearms on their way to militia training, very few people are allowed to actually carry firearms. And they cannot be loaded.
• Despite the militia requirement in Switzerland, the rate of gun ownership (by percentage) in the United States is much higher than in Switzerland.
• The vast majority of militia members are not even allowed to store ammo at home. And for the 2000 or so--that's right only 2000--militia members who do have ammo, it is sealed and inspected regularly.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/2/28/1190586/-Some-Truth-About-Switzerland-and-Guns

If Switzerland "manages" it so well why are they still 3rd on the chart for deaths?

After all these laws apply to the entire country, is it the 2000 Militia Members killing themselves?

Japan literally did what all the gun nuts are afraid of and the government went around collecting all of peoples weapons so they couldn't be used in a coupe against the government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_hunt http://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/japan.php

USA wins handily at most things when you compare them to countries are 1/30th their population.

I actually like Jim a lot, do you know if he's come out with anything new? I think the last one I saw was about his baby.

 

Exactly. I can't offhand think of anything else that we would own that we're prohibited from giving or loaning to friend or family.

I may be wrong but I've always been under the assumption that it's a crime to knowingly transfer a firearm to a person prohibited to possess one. I've always operated that way anyway because it's just common sense and in the past I have backed out of sales if I felt that something wasn't quite right. Up until the enactment of the latest back ground check farce there was an option to have checks done for private sales no paper work involved, which was nice if you had any doubts. I believe that option was taken away. I know a lot of people in recent years would only sell to those with CHL
I was quoting Jade Falcons post but for some reason the quote posted 5-6 posts ago.

 

Nope. All of my family was born in this country legally, and they have NO ties to illegal immigrants.

Not everyone who has a car is responsible either. But there's no background check to purchase a car. AND it's legal.

And a car that is abused can easily kill someone.

To quote an edited part of my above post:

You'll find this the case with most gun owners in this country.

Unfortunately, yes, there are some irresponsible gun owners out there. But a background check can't find "irresponsible" if it's not on a person's criminal record.

 

Jesus, get a room.