Politics The ACLU took Trump to court over his Muslim refugee and immigrant ban — and won

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  1. riverman

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    I wouldn't expect it to get overturned...I think it's more posturing for solidarity to make Trump overreact...a lot of people are going to poke sticks at this administration...it won't be pretty
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I'm not.

    You said:
    I have been told multiple times in this forum that Trump's order was perfectly legal.
    Now it's an actual judge telling you it was perfectly legal.

    Unfortunately, it likely is.
     
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    Trudeau stated clearly that all refugees are welcome in Canada...if stranded, that's an option..
     
  5. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Good. He can take em.
     
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    Ha! Trump, who Judge Robart could easily call a so-called President, has lost it. No respect for the courts.

     
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    And another actual judge had said it is illegal. Trump would be wise to let it go. By the time an appeal is heard, the ban would probably be over. It is a fight he can't win, unless he actually intends the ban to last longer than 90 days
     
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    I don't favor the ban. I wish he'd never have gone for it.

    He'd be wise, if he wants the ban to stick, to fight it. And I am quite sure he's going to fight it.

    We saw ObamaCare deemed illegal by various judges along the way to the Supreme Court, only to have the Court decide it didn't want to overstep it's duties.

    This is likely going to the Supreme Court as well. If they do what they did in ObamaCare, the ban will stand.

    This is one of his promises and he's keeping it. He was elected saying he would. The Court may well decide that it's not their duty to inject themselves in a matter between the White House and Congress.
     
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    So much for Trump being the next Hitler.

    He's obeying the court.
     
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    The travel pause and refugee ban is legal and it will be oberturned in appeals and I hope it does. I also hope they expand it to more terrorist counties. I'd also like anyone that is complaining about our vetting to pay attention to what military members say about their experiences over in these shit hole desert countries.
     
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    Ha! Trump now thinks he is a better lawyer than the US Attorneys. Maybe he doesn't realize that the other order isn't controlling precedent. Way to throw the DOJ under the bus.

     
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    I love this discussion. It was a 90 day ban. On fox news I heard a woman saying how ridiculous this is and that people will die. Then she said during "our thorough 2 year vetting process blah blah blah"

    So, people will die 21 months from now if only they weren't subjected to this evil 90 day wait? Got it.
     
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    Or maybe exactly 24 months ago these people started this process, survived until now and then BAM...dead. Ok.
     
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    People are generally alive until they are dead, yes.

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    So you believe a 90 day ban will cause more deaths?
     
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    Do you believe it will save lives?

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    Who cares? We aren't the world's fucking safety blanket. We have our own problems to resolve. Unless of course you're Starbucks and you want to hire 10,000 of them before your own.
    edit: spelling
     
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    Pretty much this except I would care if it saved lives. But, they'd be brought here temporarily. Instead though, Germany can have as many as they can get. And Saudi Arabia and anyone else closer. You know VW wants to sell the most cars globally, start at home. TDi wagons for all refugees.

    I mean Sulu tweeted that Merkel is the leader of the free world, she can do it. We can spend every cent on our homeless instead.
     
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    Oh right, America is a hell-hole. I keep forgetting that.

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