Is Gilbert Arenas a superstar player?Is he nothing more than an explosive scorer?Is he a great player who plays selfish basketball for his own personal fame?Will he ever get to the next step and possibly win an NBA title?I watched an interesting debate today about whether or not Arenas was a superstar player or not, it's up for debate.Is Gilbert Arenas a superstar player: Yes.Is he nothing more than an explosive scorer? No.Is he a great player who plays selfish basketball for his own personal fame? Yes.Will he ever get to the next step and possibly win an NBA title? Yes.
it depends what you define as superstar.......Anybody could win a ring, but Gilbert is not the kind of player where you say "he has to win a ring at some point in his career, he's that good"
Of course he's a superstar, he fills up the stat sheet...He can score, pass, rebound and shoot...like most elite guards...although his constant jabbering is getting a little old, you can sense that everything has kind of gone to head even though he's a nice guy who likes to have fun. I think he needs to stop talking about himself and his scoring and maybe work on playing some kind of defense. I doubt he will ever win anything unless the Wizards get something resembling a threat in the post, as long as your 3 best players are shooters/scorers your not going to win anything.
Is Gilbert Arenas a superstar player?YesIs he nothing more than an explosive scorer?NoIs he a great player who plays selfish basketball for his own personal fame?YesWill he ever get to the next step and possibly win an NBA title?No
I don't think he's a superstar player, hell I wouldn't even say he's a great player. But that's nothing against him or his skills, but I just think those two terms ("superstar" and "great player") are tossed around too loosely nowadays. There are only a handful of "superstar" and "great players" in the NBA today, in my opinion.EDIT: To clarify, I feel Gilbert Arenas is a great talent, but not a great player, if that makes sense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Feb 13 2007, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>EDIT: To clarify, I feel Gilbert Arenas is a great talent, but not a great player, if that makes sense.</div>Basically, your saying he's a good player, but not a great player due to the fact his all around game is not complete...
I'd like to just put out there for hte people who are talking about his mouth that he has made up with EJ and says that he will try to play more basketball rather than talk so much. This doesn't mean he won't say anything but he won't talk as much as he usually does.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Feb 13 2007, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Basically, your saying he's a good player, but not a great player due to the fact his all around game is not complete...</div>No, not necessarily. I just think those terms are tossed around too loosely. There are intangibles that many players lack, therefore they don't fall into the "superstar" or "great player" category in my eyes. Great players to me are those players that are future HOFers, not any player who can score at will, dunk like crazy, etc.But, I do agree that his all around game is not complete.
Is Gilbert Arenas a superstar player?No(reason I say this is J Oneal said unless you have a ring, what seperates you from other stars.....)..and I completely agree with him.Is he nothing more than an explosive scorer?NoIs he a great player who plays selfish basketball for his own personal fame?NoWill he ever get to the next step and possibly win an NBA title?Yes
Is Gilbert Arenas a superstar player: Yes.Is he nothing more than an explosive scorer? For now, yes. But you can see he's still developing, and will still get better as an all around player.Is he a great player who plays selfish basketball for his own personal fame? No. You can see that if he's having an off night, he'll usually dish the ball a lot more, to his teamates. Shows he can trust them. AJ and CB3 are living proof.Will he ever get to the next step and possibly win an NBA title? Yes.His still evolving as a player. His rebounding is up. Assists, has been up and down this season.And He's not TOing the ball as much. He doesn't need any change offensively, what he needs to work on is his D. With his body structure, his stronger than most PGs in the league. He has the basics needed to become an all around decent or good defender. He's a superstar, but still not a great player. yet. Come to think of it, he's one of the few superstars (probably alongside Dirk), that the Media and the NBA didn't forcefully shove down our throats. He wasn't brought up like LBJ, Wade, or Kobe. Memphis Fan: So you're saying a Legend like Sir Charles is not a superstar? What about AI? what about Karl Malone? Reggie Miller? Nate Thurmond? KG? >_>
Is Gilbert Arenas a superstar player? Yes. He can score from anywhere, can drive to the basket as well as anyone in the league, and probably one of the top 3 scorers in the league. Of course, scoring isn't the only thing, Gil is a mediocre defensive player, but has potential to be a great defensive player if he just tried (athletic).Is he nothing more than an explosive scorer? Yes, but he can really dish the ball well amongst his teamates. It's all mental with Gil, it's sort of like he'll feel like getting 10-12 assists when he wants to, same with scoring 40 points if he wants to, and whenever he wants to. This year is also one of his best rebounding years, and as a guard he's a pretty good rebounder. I still think he has room to improve in other aspects of his game, however.Is he a great player who plays selfish basketball for his own personal fame? No. Some people think he does this because of all the 'revenge' he wants on the entire NBA, to prove the haters wrong, etc. But if you ask Antawn or Caron, they'll most likely say that Gil has definitely improved with his decision-making. Will he ever get to the next step and possibly win an NBA title? Yes. I don't think he'll be the kind of guy that Kobe or Duncan will be, getting some rings and FINALLY letting everyone know he can bring his Wizards amongst 'elite' competition, but he's get at least one. This Wizards team has a lot of potential.. they have great chemistry and stability. The only thing is that they're not consistent. With a couple more pieces to add to the bench, along with a Reggie Evansesque player, the Wizards could make a run to the finals in a couple years. That all depends on the management, however.
Is Gilbert Arenas a superstar player?No, he's a wannabe with bad shot selection. He kept whining about it until he started to get recognized. He is a good player, but not a superstar to me.Is he nothing more than an explosive scorer?He can pass...Is he a great player who plays selfish basketball for his own personal fame?I don't know if he's that selfish. I think he does care about his team a lot, but also cares about personal accomplishments a lot and is getting cocky.Will he ever get to the next step and possibly win an NBA title?No, the West will be the strongest conference for a while and even when it's not there will be Orlando and Boston in the East as well as...Charlotte?
Man, Gilbert Arenas' ability to take over a game reminds me of Isiah Thomas in his prime on the Bad Boys. He won't ever win a title. It takes 5ive, plus a bench, plus a good coach. Eddie Jordan isn't that great of a coach, their bench is pretty weak, and the starting five is pretty bad outside of Jamison and Butler.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Feb 13 2007, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He won't ever win a title. It takes 5ive, plus a bench, plus a good coach. Eddie Jordan isn't that great of a coach, their bench is pretty weak, and the starting five is pretty bad outside of Jamison and Butler.</div>Stop, right there. Outside of Jamison and Butler the Starting Five is bad? DeShawn Stevenson was a solid pickup for us in the offseason not even getting paid 1 mill, gives us good perimeter defense and spot up shooter in the fast break. You don't know how much of an affect Haywood brings towards shots defensively, the Wizards are a much better team with him on the floor getting 30 minutes a night. PG ArenasSG StevensonSF ButlerPF JamisonC HaywoodThat isn't a bad starting five at all..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Feb 13 2007, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Stop, right there. Outside of Jamison and Butler the Starting Five is bad? DeShawn Stevenson was a solid pickup for us in the offseason not even getting paid 1 mill, gives us good perimeter defense and spot up shooter in the fast break. You don't know how much of an affect Haywood brings towards shots defensively, the Wizards are a much better team with him on the floor getting 30 minutes a night. PG ArenasSG StevensonSF ButlerPF JamisonC HaywoodThat isn't a bad starting five at all..</div>Man, I saw this coming.There are much better starting shooting guards and centers in the league than Stevenson and Haywood. That's great that they help the chemistry, but they just aren't that great. I'm glad Haywood is good defender, but would he start on any other solid franchise? Besides San Antonio? No, I don't think so.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Feb 13 2007, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd like to just put out there for hte people who are talking about his mouth that he has made up with EJ and says that he will try to play more basketball rather than talk so much. This doesn't mean he won't say anything but he won't talk as much as he usually does.</div>EJ? Ernie Johnson?
Define a Superstar. I don't really know what qualifies a player to be a superstar. In my eyes, all Gilbert does is score points. He has an excellent shot, and great quickness. He's a scorer. But he is a bad passer for a PG, he doesn't play a lick of defense, can't rebound, nothing else. I would not put him on the levels of Lebron, DWade, Kobe, AI, Steve Nash, TD, KG, or even TMac. Those guys are multi-demensional. Arenas is not. All Arenas seems to care about is scoring in my eyes....He is also full of himself, which I definately do not like.Edit: He can pass, but then again; all PG's can...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Feb 13 2007, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Man, I saw this coming.There are much better starting shooting guards and centers in the league than Stevenson and Haywood. That's great that they help the chemistry, but they just aren't that great. I'm glad Haywood is good defender, but would he start on any other solid franchise? Besides San Antonio? No, I don't think so.</div>I can't really take you seriously if you won't even watch one Wizards game. Haywood would definitely start on the Sonics, he'd probably start for NJ, as well considering that Krstic is out for the year. He'd also start for Boston, too. You're really underappreciating his value on the Wizards; he's one of the guys that the Wizards just won't trade unless they get the fairest deal ever. Arenas, Blatche, Butler, and him are really hard to trade, despite those fake realgm rumors that has Haywood being traded.Also, about Stevenson, I realize that we don't have one of the top backcourts with Gil and Hughes, but Stevenson can get it done defensively against most premier SGs of the league. He also improved with his jumpshooting over the offseason. The only thing that I don't like about Stevenson is his ball-handling..
You guys still think Brendan Haywood is the same player he was last year. Since he was benched the first 20 games of the year he re-invented his game. He started being stronger and becoming a much better defender and rebounder. Brendan Haywood could start in many franchises. Here's a list of a few.NetsSonicsSpursDallas (probabely would split time w/ dampier)Atlanta (He's better than zaza)RaptorsAlso DeShawn is ment for Permieter defense. SunnyD, seriousely actually know something about the Wizards before you talk about them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Feb 14 2007, 07:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Define a Superstar. I don't really know what qualifies a player to be a superstar. In my eyes, all Gilbert does is score points. He has an excellent shot, and great quickness. He's a scorer. But he is a bad passer for a PG, he doesn't play a lick of defense, can't rebound, nothing else. I would not put him on the levels of Lebron, DWade, Kobe, AI, Steve Nash, TD, KG, or even TMac. Those guys are multi-demensional. Arenas is not. All Arenas seems to care about is scoring in my eyes....He is also full of himself, which I definately do not like.Edit: He can pass, but then again; all PG's can...</div>Glad you changed your mind about his passing. He doesn't play a lick of D? LMAO, The last game against DET,in the few waning seconds who was bothering Sheed, on his chance to tie the game? Gil. Rebound? The f*ck are you smoking? For a guard, 4.7 RPG is <u>good</u>.And how come he has a high EFF rating? You don't know sh*t about Gil and the Wiz. Full of himself? He chipped a tooth during a game against Celtics, EJ was determined to limit his minutes against DET, but ended up playing 40+ mins, on 10-20 shooting, 5-12 threes, 7 Rebs, 11 assists, and 2 TOs. And it's been mentioned thousands of times that Gil's only been acting cocky lately, and I'm sure it'll die down soon. You've got to be the most immature, and illogic Mod I've ever seen. Hell, Okur's more deserving of that Allstar recognition than you being a Mod, and that's not sayin much.
