Merged: |0fficial| Trade Deadline

If there is one single player in all of the NBA that I had to bet on getting traded by the deadline it is Nurkic. With Jokic back he was DNP-CD last night.

 

Problem is denvers gm doesn't trade unless he "wins" the deal, so it'll be hard for him to pull the trigger because Nurkic' value is really low right now.

 

So either he's involved in a trade or he has an injury that they don't want to disclose yet.

 

Very quit now. The rumored deals all sound too one sided to happen as reported.
Appears the 76ers want a kings ransom for Okafor. They probably want more for Noel.
The Magic still want too much for UFA Ibaka.

 

In before @BlazerWookee

Bleacher report lol.

 

This is probably why most deals don't get done until deadline day. Asking prices will go down, especially when it's a player a team is motivated to deal (Ibaka for example)

 

Orlando have little reason to keep Ibaka if they are not going to sign him after season. We should exploit that but not offer too much.

Nurkic is interesting but Denver are in no hurry to sell him. They will still have him for two more reasons and he is very young. Hope we can lure him but our assets are not very attractive to Nuggets.

 

Magic are trying to pump-up Ibaka's trade value.

 

IMO Nurk is the better and cheaper avenue to pursue, he still on a rookie deal this yr and next so he is cheap contract wise which helps a lot vs having to pay Ibaka a huge deal this summer. Also I think Nurk would be a good bit cheaper to obtain then Ibaka in a trade and he wants out badly. In addition I have to wonder why Orlando appears ready to give up on Ibaka after trading away so much for him? they gave up Victor Oladipo, Ersan Ilyasova, and what became No. 11 pick Domantas Sabonis

 

they gave up a LOT (Victor Oladipo, Ersan Ilyasova, what became No. 11 pick Domantas Sabonis) for him and now they are desperate Iguess to get some value back and not look like total idiots

 

Don't try to understand what Orlando is doing, it's not worth it.

They gave away Harkless, Frye, and Tobias Harris for pretty much nothing as well.

 

Oladipo will join that list too, and Sabonis. One year of Ibaka in which they weren't even good.

Their young talent has not really been developing very well - Payton, Hezonja and Gordon.

 

Orlando is dumb as fuck.

 

The Magic's biggest problem is they do not have a franchise player. None of their players come anywhere near Dame's & CJ's level of talent and leadership. All they have are role players. Many of their players would do well on a playoff team, the way Harkless has played better here than there.

 

If they don't want to move him, why aren't they playing him? Seriously, they tried the Jokic/Nurkic combo last year and again this year at the start of the season. They both play well separately, but put them on the court together and it's a disaster:

"That's not going to change if Jokic stays healthy. The Nuggets have tried playing the two together, and it doesn't work. They get outscored by 16.1 points per 100 possessions whenever sharing the floor—and they've played just five minutes together since Nov. 11."

He wants out of DEN and they want to move him. If he isn't traded to the highest bidder by the deadline, he will surely be traded during the summer. They struck gold with Jokic in the second round in that draft (41st pick), and even though Nurkic was a good value at the 16th pick, they are looking to move him for another potential asset.

Could be something as simple as a mid first round pick, or two later picks. They are looking to rebuild around Jokic and also also shopping Galinari, Chandler, Barton and Faried. Galinari, Chandler and Faried all have another two years left after this season and are all too old to figure into their youth movement. Even with those three on the books, DEN will go into the summer with about $46 million in available cap space. Thye can easily absorb a big contract - especially if they can get rid of one of those three in the process.

So, maybe they look to Nurkic along with one of those big contracts for a pick and a younger player - someone like Allen Crabbe. But, unless they think Crabbe can play SF, they may not want him. They believe 19-year old Jamal Murray is their SG of the future. So, unless they plan on playing Crabbe at SF or eventually becoming Murray's back up, he may not make sense for them. I don't think we have anything else they'd want other than 1st round picks. Perhaps get a third team, like ORL, PHI or BRK involved - but the latter would have to wait until July to get Crabbe - one year after we matched BRK's offer.

BNM

 

Tobias Harris has really played well in DET after they traded him. He's their leading scorer.

Of course, he also played well in ORL before they traded him. It's like ORL can't seem to think more than one move ahead. They traded Harris to create playing time for the even younger Aaron Gordon, and then they trade for the even older Ibabka and forced Gordon to play out of position at SF - which is killing his development.

Nothing they do makes any sense.

BNM

 

Man Orlando could've fielded a pretty solid team had they just kept their team together

Payton
Oladipo
Harris
Gordon
Vuc

Harkless, Fournier, Frye, Sabonis off the bench.

 

If there's any way to get Evan Fournier, we should pursue it. I know we need bigs but that dude is basically Crabbe with handles, passing ability, and finishing ability.