<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Feb 15 2007, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wade gets calls that others wont get. It's not FTA's, it's the fact that Wade will get a call when somebody "fouls" him. Yet when an opponent in the same game gets the same "foul" it's a no-call. I remember the Lakers-Heat game in LA, the Lakers were getting knocked on their asses all night, which is fine but, Wade and the Heat were getting to the line for touch fouls. That's what I hate.Anyway.Wilt in 1967: 24ppg 24rpg 8apgMagic in 1982: 19ppr 9rpg 9apg</div>GA gets calls Wade gets, AI gets calls Wade gets, etc... Bottom line is I have no sympathy for a player like Kobe whod rives far less than wade yet only takes 2 less FTA per game. When you drive as much as Wade does, and as agressively as he does, he is bound to get a few bad calls each night, and the refs are quicker to blow the whistle.PS- You forgot to mention the Big O...Mr Triple Double.
I've stopped caring. But I don't like it when calls aren't consistant. Like when one thing is a fould on one end of the floor but it's not a foul on the other end. I hate that sh*t.I didn't bring up Oscar Robertson becuase I think he was already mentioned. I was just adding to the list.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ginger Jesus @ Feb 13 2007, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wade would be 29/5/8, not 29/8/5. Wade is overrated still. Half his points are from free throws.</div>Word.
just cause hes gets his points from the free throw line doesn't make him any less of a star...yall want to see something great, and when a player is great yall bash them....I dont get it. He still wins games, and obvisouly a ring doing what hes doing...let it be...free throws or not.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Memphis Fan @ Feb 15 2007, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>just cause hes gets his points from the free throw line doesn't make him any less of a star...yall want to see something great, and when a player is great yall bash them....I dont get it. He still wins games, and obvisouly a ring doing what hes doing...let it be...free throws or not.</div>Even Michael Jordan of all people discredited him saying that he would have been a completely different player in his era.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Feb 15 2007, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Even Michael Jordan of all people discredited him saying that he would have been a completely different player in his era.</div>AI was the same player he is now when handchecking was still allowed. Wade is the best at getting to the rim in the league and finishing. Wade would not be different at all if he did not get the calls he gets now. He does far too much all around to be considered any less of a star because of it. And again, stars gets away with tons of stuff. Whether it be fouls, travels, or whatever.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Feb 15 2007, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>GA gets calls Wade gets, AI gets calls Wade gets, etc... Bottom line is I have no sympathy for a player like Kobe whod rives far less than wade yet only takes 2 less FTA per game. When you drive as much as Wade does, and as agressively as he does, he is bound to get a few bad calls each night, and the refs are quicker to blow the whistle.PS- You forgot to mention the Big O...Mr Triple Double.</div>AI been in the league for ever and earned that. Wade maybe not as much yet.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Feb 15 2007, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>AI been in the league for ever and earned that. Wade maybe not as much yet.</div>By AI's 5th year he was at over 10FTA per game in the "totally sooper-dooper physical" handcheck era in which people think Wade wouldn't be half the player he is now.And it's funny how everyone is so up in arms over Wade's FTA this year, yet AI was at 11.5 last year. Bottom line is all superstars get calls. Not everyone get sosme of the calls a Wade or AI get, but Wade and AI may not get away with things other players get away with. It's the way the NBA works, and it's been this way for quite awhile. But players like Wade who drive more than anyone else at rim, harder at rim, and more consistently at rim, are likely to get more calls and the benefit of the doubt than player swho don't drive as much or as agressively.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Feb 15 2007, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>By AI's 5th year he was at over 10FTA per game in the "totally sooper-dooper physical" handcheck era in which people think Wade wouldn't be half the player he is now.And it's funny how everyone is so up in arms over Wade's FTA this year, yet AI was at 11.5 last year. Bottom line is all superstars get calls. Not everyone get sosme of the calls a Wade or AI get, but Wade and AI may not get away with things other players get away with. It's the way the NBA works, and it's been this way for quite awhile. But players like Wade who drive more than anyone else at rim, harder at rim, and more consistently at rim, are likely to get more calls and the benefit of the doubt than player swho don't drive as much or as agressively.</div>Again I say AI has earned the calls he got/gets due to all the years in the league he has the rep. Wade has not been in the league long enough to get some of those awful calls he get's.But w/e
Again, AI was getting 10+ FT's (probably leading the league) in his 5th year. Right now Wade is in his 4th year. So you're saying that 1 year made a huge difference and that all of a sudden AI deserved those 10+ FT's due to him being a veteran? Give me a break...Again, Wade and AI get so many FT's because they drive to basket more than anyone else, are agressive at basket, sell fouls, and get superstar treatment that all superstars get ins ome way shape or form.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Feb 16 2007, 02:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Again, AI was getting 10+ FT's (probably leading the league) in his 5th year. Right now Wade is in his 4th year. So you're saying that 1 year made a huge difference and that all of a sudden AI deserved those 10+ FT's due to him being a veteran? Give me a break...Again, Wade and AI get so many FT's because they drive to basket more than anyone else, are agressive at basket, sell fouls, and get superstar treatment that all superstars get ins ome way shape or form.</div>AI actually usually get's fare calls unlike Wade. Well more fair then Wade not saying all fair.
I hate people who talk out of there A$$ http://www.nba.com/playerfile/allen_iverson/ He is a ten year pro AI is one of the touphest players I have ever seen he may be considered a ball hog and a coach killer ( Even though im a laker fan ) he is no worse then Kobe even though Kobe is a more complete player. Wade really is the better team player to come out of the 03 draft which included Carmelo ( P*$$Y ) anthony and Lebron ( I swear I cant make a freethrow becuase its a mental thing) James. But I dont James deserve a sh*t load of calls he gets so if anyone doesn't deserve it its him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (point4seconds @ Feb 16 2007, 02:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I hate people who talk out of there A$$ http://www.nba.com/playerfile/allen_iverson/ He is a ten year pro AI is one of the touphest players I have ever seen he may be considered a ball hog and a coach killer ( Even though im a laker fan ) he is no worse then Kobe even though Kobe is a more complete player. Wade really is the better team player to come out of the 03 draft which included Carmelo ( P*$$Y ) anthony and Lebron ( I swear I cant make a freethrow becuase its a mental thing) James. But I dont James deserve a sh*t load of calls he gets so if anyone doesn't deserve it its him.</div>I agree about AI being the toughest. He is not a ball hog though he was forced to take all them shots I am a Sixers fan I would know + I go to games unlike people who just get it out of there *ss that he is a ball hog.Lebron is the best player out of the 03 draft your crazy if you think other wise due to Wade winning a title. And he is the 2nd best player in the league behind Kobe.And Melo is a great player was top 5 for MVP this season before his suspention messed his chance up.
Bron is the best talent out of the 03 draft, but right now give me Wade over Bron. You could make a case for him being a better scorer, better playmaker, much better defender, more clutch, and has all the intangibles (like winning a ring).But I'm not interested in going through that debate again :happy0144:
Please notice I didnt say best player. I said best <u>TEAM</u> player. And as for carmelo I have no respect for a wanna be superstar who throws a punch and back peddles like a pU$$Y.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (point4seconds @ Feb 16 2007, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Please notice I didnt say best player. I said best <u>TEAM</u> player. And as for carmelo I have no respect for a wanna be superstar who throws a punch and back peddles like a pU$$Y.</div>Umm don't matter Lebron is a awsome passer he is deff a team player. I will go as far as say he is a better passer then Wade.And WTF you want for him to do keep fighting get suspended for the whole f*cking season damn you got no brains dude. And you should have no respect toward dumb *ss Isiah Thomas who made this happen with probably telling his dude to go after a hard foul to cause this crap in the first place.
He was getting disrespected the nuggets where highlighting all night and they where up by 20 and didnt take there starters out with a min to go. carmelo is a showoff with no class and I hope isiah himself comes over and knocks him out next time they play. I dont blame carmelo intererly there coach lets those players do whatever they feel like doing its a chaotic orginization that finally has talent but its full of talent with no mature players.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (point4seconds @ Feb 17 2007, 04:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He was getting disrespected the nuggets where highlighting all night and they where up by 20 and didnt take there starters out with a min to go. carmelo is a showoff with no class and I hope isiah himself comes over and knocks him out next time they play. I dont blame carmelo intererly there coach lets those players do whatever they feel like doing its a chaotic orginization that finally has talent but its full of talent with no mature players.</div>I for one don't see what the heck the problem is why people do this I would play the starters even if the team was winning don't see why this whole thing started taking players out if you are winning, or losing by a lot. And did you for get the T-Mac 13 points in one minute him self? Anything is possible......And Melo has class he can't take him self out it is up to the coach I agreed leave the guys.
how can you say melo has class? he shows up on a gang movie luaghing about killing cops then refuses to do a movie with the cops to make up for it. then during the playoffs he is sitting on the bench not even paying attention to the game and playing with his hair extensions. then he hits a guy who wasnt looking and runs like a little punk he has no class and he aint no damn thug.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (point4seconds @ Feb 18 2007, 02:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>how can you say melo has class? he shows up on a gang movie luaghing about killing cops then refuses to do a movie with the cops to make up for it. then during the playoffs he is sitting on the bench not even paying attention to the game and playing with his hair extensions. then he hits a guy who wasnt looking and runs like a little punk he has no class and he aint no damn thug.</div>LOL what movie was that I would love to have seen that. And cause the other movie probably paid him more maybe that is why he did not do the one with the cops. There could be many reasons for that. And I have no idea were you got your info so Yeah. And who cares Lebron sometimes sits there bites his nails does not pay attentian at times not a big deal I am sure he watches the game also. And everyone was hitting everyone. Isiah should not have let his guy take a hard foul then all of it would not have happened in the first place.
