Lillard makes for an intriguing trade asset--discuss

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  1. Schilly

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    Holy shit you guys, I can't believe a misleading tweet, that even the tweeter acknowledged was not accurate, is generating so much buzz. Local media "Trade rumors swirling around Lillard" no they aren't... even other NBA writers have come out and said there's no way Portland I entertaining offers at this point.
     
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    Pretty good post. It may be that the sweet spot to trade one of them was a year ago. We shouldn't be desperate to find a deal, and I won't be disappointed at all to see them remain through the season.
     
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    Good points made on the ringer NBA show today when talking about trading stars in their primes.

    UTA hasn't made the playoffs since trading Deron.
    MIN hasn't made the playoffs since trading KG.
    ORL hasn't made the playoffs since trading Dwight.
     
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    Utah is making is this year. But point taken.
     
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    Of course, it's quite likely that Utah wouldn't have anyway, since Deron declined precipitously after that deal. Orlando may have been a playoff team for another year until Howard left, but Howard also began declining soon after. In both cases, the teams were motivated sellers because they didn't think they could re-sign the players.

    I think those two deals made sense at the time and they didn't really lose a ton even if the returns weren't quite what they hoped.
     
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    The point is, there are clearly times when you have to hit the reset button on teams that aren't working. But there are lot more situations in the past in which rebuilds have backfired.

    I'm not opposed to trading Dame for an established superstar on a longterm contract. But for just picks? Hell no. I'd rather be on a treadmill with hope of a 2nd round than in the lotto year after year.
     
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    I'll do that if they throw in Giannis
     
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    Just for picks? No. Nor for a bunch of okay players. But Lillard is on a long-term deal--I edited my post to note that both Utah and Orlando were dealing their dude because they didn't feel they could re-sign him. A better comparison would be Aldridge--a year before he was due to be a free agent, if you didn't think he'd re-sign, would you have dealt him for a solid package of picks/young players? I would have.
     
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    Lillard isn't worth just Giannis, let alone both Giannis and Parker. But I wouldn't even consider Lillard for Parker.
     
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    Dame has 4 yrs left on a very reasonable deal.

    How is that comparable to an older Aldridge with one year left?
     
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    No shit.
     
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    I was saying that Lillard is a bad comparison to the Deron Williams and Dwight Howard deals, because both teams felt they couldn't re-sign them. I then said that Aldridge is the better comparison to the Deron Williams and Dwight Howard deals.

    I'll re-state this differently: a big reason why it wouldn't make sense to deal Lillard for picks and/or multiple young players is because he's signed long-term, something that wasn't true of Deron Williams and Dwight Howard. LaMarcus Aldridge a year before his free agency would be a superior comparison to those trades you quoted and I'd definitely have dealt him for picks/young players if I felt I couldn't re-sign him.
     
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    [QUOTE="Minstrel, post: 4093910, member: 20914"]Lillard isn't worth just Giannis, let alone both Giannis and Parker. But I wouldn't even consider Lillard for Parker.[/QUOTE]

    At what point is his Giannis' freakish abilities going to translate into wins? Maybe he is just a tweener who would be an awesome role player, but nothing more
     
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