Power Forward of the Future

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  1. Hobbesarable

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    I like him defensively and he has one 1 year remaining on his rookie contract. The remainder of this season and next will be his chance to shine and show he's worth a new contract. I have hope for him.
     
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    Derrick Favors is probably the ideal player in that "star roleplayer" power forward niche. Even with his offensive numbers way down this year due to his injury, his defense is still excellent. He would very much fit into that Buck Williams/Brian Grant profile of tough-as-nails defender and rebounder, with added offensive upside.
     
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    Not sure why you call Meyers Leonard John Holmes. You must know him a lot better than the rest of us.

    Vonleh started more games in his first year here than Meyers has in 5 years. It's not like Vonleh hasn't been given a fair chance to show what he can do.

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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I can't say I agree with that at all. Favors is much bigger, stronger, better at guarding power forwards and 2 years younger than Aminu. Aminu is more versatile. He can guard SFs and stretch 4s, but he can't guard that Aldridges, Griffins or other big power forwards like Favors can. I want a power forward with some size. We've seen what size can do at the center position. I want more of that. Again, I'm fine with Aminu off the bench, but I REALLY want an upgrade at starting PF.

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    The age is a plus...I think Aminu has an incredible wingspan for his height so it makes up for some size...Aminu is 26 and Favors is 25 though...only a year apart..favors has an inch and 25lbs on him though...he also makes over 11 mill on a four year deal but..having both would be pretty solid
     
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    If you have Harkless/Turner, Favors, and Nurkic in your starting lineup then you can say goodbye to any spacing offensively. I get that you have to build around Dame and CJ's lack of defense but you also can't completely limit them offensively by playing them with three non shooters. Ima say it again, a realistic and intriguing option is Marvin Williams.
     
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    He's a big white stiff
     
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    I've never been that big of a fan of Favors...Marvin Williams is an interesting idea though
     
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    I said in the offseason that Marvin Williams would be a fantastic addition (I also wanted Millsap, as a pie-in-the-sky possibility, but Williams was the budget version). That was when the idea was to improve a team that might be a dark horse. Now, though, I think he's probably a bit too old to be power forward of the future--it also appears that his three-point proficiency of last year was a but flukish, like Aminu, though he's still hovering near average. As a short-term bridge, he wouldn't be bad.
     
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    I really think they'll target somebody young to push Vonleh for a spot...probably a draft pick guy. I don't see Olshey bringing in anybody older than Chief at 26
     
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    I don't disagree, I just know I was told by you and others that it takes longer for bigs to develop. Vonleh is 3 and a half years younger than Leonar_. Most of the forum were still Beliebers this last offseason. Time is time
     
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    Things will change a lot from now until draft time. But, Bam Adebayo intrigues me a lot. Pair him next to Nurkic and you have the toughest, strongest front court in the NBA.
     
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    I like the idea of Favors. He has knee issues so there is that to worry about
    Farried might be a good idea this summer if we can figure out how to get him under a decent sized contract.
    Jabari Parker might be had since this is his second ACL tear in 3 years.
     
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    I really wouldn't be surprised to see Olshey try to get Blake Griffin especially if the Clips don't get far this playoffs..
     
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    I don't like Markkenan with a pick in the top 20. He's the PF version of Crabbe. Above average to elite shooter, that brings absolutely nothing else to the table.
     
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    I see where your coming from. It's my belief that at this point in Dame and CJ's career, it's more risky to invest in a young player hoping they turn into a stud during the duos prime. If you go that route and whiff you are now looking at the possibility of wasting Dame and CJ's prime years on an experimental player that never panned out. In which case we would be in store for another blow up and rebuild.

    If you go for a player in the 29-32 yr old range you generally know exactly what you are getting and what you will be paying. In best case scenario you can get a player who fits that role well for 3-4 years as you groom their replacement. The ugly truth is that the time to find players to "build" with our center pieces is coming dangerously close to being over. #MarvinWilliams2PDX
     
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    I addressed why I feel he's different from Crabbe and Meyers. He's capable of shooting with a hand in his face and he has the ability to attack close-outs by driving past them. So I disagree that he doesn't have any other skill. Whether he'll be able to hold his own defensively is certainly a concern, but he does have the agility and lateral quickness to defend out to the perimeter (against other mobile big men) so a lot will come down to whether he has the defensive awareness to understand and navigate multiple screen actions.
     
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    There's definitely a lot of legitimacy to that. As I said, I wouldn't mind him as a veteran option (though he's not shooting the three much better than Harkless, a guy you identified as a space-killer, and that's more in line with his career averages than last year's performance was). But I think they still need to find a younger player who has the chance to develop into something special. Because if you're surrounding Lillard and McCollum with an okay-not-great option at small forward, power forward and center, that probably doesn't get you anywhere near contention--even if Nurkic proves to be a very good center, rather than merely okay.

    You have to balance "too young to help the Lillard/McCollum window" with "too proven to have any upside" because proven stars are unlikely to be available in free agency or trades (unless Portland sends out a star in return).
     
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    My favorite scenario is we somehow move up to snag Jayson Tatum and trade for a veteran at the 4. Tatum has the type of game that doesn't take long to translate to the NBA. I also feel the presence of Chris Kaman last year was understated. A veteran in the locker room is always a key part of any championship team. The spurs have had conference contending teams for 5 years with veterans in almost every position, kawhi being the outlier and his personality is more of a veteran then a 26 yr old.
     
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