What a difference - Bear Nurkic making a BIG impression

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  1. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    The opposite was true for four or five years after Dirk broke out. GM's were reaching for the next Dirk or Pau and drafted guys like Darko, Tskitishvili and Bargnani WAY too high. After those guys flamed out, the pendulum swung in the opposite direction. Eventually, it will reach it's equilibrium point where Euros are evaluated correctly and drafted accordingly.

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  2. riverman

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    He's got the potential to become this guy
     
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  3. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I say we go with a two-headed big man coach: Przybilla to teach defense and rebounding, Kaman to teach offense and footwork, both to teach ass kicking and throat stepping.

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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    He has shooting potential.
     
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    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    This current Denver team is a good model to emulate for a rebuild. They tanked but they still won 30 games every year. Here is the highest number they have drafted in the last 5 years. 7, 7, 11, 22. 20. Now they had multiple picks in those years and many misses. But rather than relying on the highest pick possible to find a winner, they appear to be relying on the most picks possible.
    If you think about it, it makes sense. The draft is a crap shoot, why not increase your "luck" with more chances rather than the major tank approach and hope you get a top 3 pick and having that player pan out?

    Of course this means taking a lot of international players. The Nuggets chosen 9 since 2012.
     
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    And we didn't have youtube to watch epic players and games from the beginning of time like you young whippersnappers.....hang on while I break out the world's tiniest violin
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Good post. SAC is kind of the opposite. They had 8 top 8 picks in 8 years and only hit one home run - Boogie, who they turned into Buddy Hield. In 7 of those 8 years they won less than 30 games. So, eight years of suckage and all they have to show for it is Buddy Hield.

    OK, a couple of their other guys MIGHT pan out, but none have distinguished themselves to date.

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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Yeah I agree let's trade CJ McCollum for one season of Paul George any more proposals I'm all ears.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Jimmy Butler would be a better target, IMO.
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Now we're talking. I would argue that a CJ/pick combo is better than anything Boston could offer.

    CJ is exactly the type of guy a franchise can build itself around.
     
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    Something about Butler that would make me nervous about trading CJ for him. How much better defensively is Butler than Harkless? Enough to make up for the loss of CJ too? Harkless actually has a much better shooting % than Butler. I would trade the picks and a players for him (i/e Mo, Aminu, ET, Crabbe etc) as I like the idea of a Dame, CJ, Butler, Nurk, PF? lineup. But if we trade CJ for him we will still need a PF, AND we will also need a SG too.

    In February the guy shot 39% from the field...for the whole month. I like him, but I see him as a 4th guy on offense.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    He's currently the 1st guy on offense on a team with a better record than us.

    And yes, his defense is light years better than Mo Harkless. He's been 2nd team all defense the last three years in a row.

    In my perfect world, we would add Butler without giving up Dame, C.J. or Nurk, but if we did give up C.J., we could play Butler at the 2 or the 3. He was a SG for his entire career until this season, but moved to SF to accommodate the addition of Dwyane Wade. He can play either position and has been an all start at both. Which means we could start Turner (2 or 3), Crabbe (2 or 3) or Harkless (3), whoever is left, next to him.

    And, while C.J.'s shooting percentages are higher, Butler gets to the line so much more that it's a wash. His TS% is .581 compared to C.J.'s .587. He scores 23.9 ppg on 16.5 FGA. C.J. scores 23.2 ppg on 18.1 FGA. Different players with different strengths, but Butler is one of the few proven players available that would replace C.J.'s offense while also greatly improving our team defense.

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    I guess I am swayed by watching the the disturbing blowout at home to the nuggets last week. I really can't see him and ET playing together as neither can shoot from deep. And quite frankly I have my doubts about he and Dame being compatible if Butler is the 2nd option on offense. IMO Butler needs to be surrounded by shooters and be content as the 3rd option.
     
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    True. He never saw Chris Dudley play.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I think Butler would be fine next to Dame on offense. He's not a great 3-point shooter, but he doesn't rely on it. He only takes about 3 game. He's much more of an attack the paint and draw fouls kind of player. He's like Demar DeRozan, only a much better defender. Him and Dame would be like DeRozan and Lowry in TOR, only in this case it would be the SG who is the defensive stud.

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  17. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    He also never saw Cliff Robinson fumble a gimme out of bounds or try to break the backboard from 3 during the playoffs like Doug Christie.
     
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    As others have said, Butler for one.

    I'd rather have CJ for 4 or 5 years plus the potential draft pick than one year of PG before he moves on to the Lakers.
     
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    He doesn't really need to lose weight. He looks like he's in good shape to me. His strength/size is one of his biggest assets.
     
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    Everybody says it's stamina...he's playing through it but he just needs cardio shape, not so much weight room. I think he's so happy he's running on adrenaline..Stotts and Dame said he needs to be in better shape and said it was stamina...not playing much all season.
     
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