FINDING A PF: Number 1 offseason priority

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  1. glazeduck

    glazeduck Well-Known Member

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    That's what I see when I watch Leaf too... A combo of David Lee and Channing Frye. Strikes me as a guy who will be good enough to contribute for stints off the bench (ala Lee and Frye) but not an impact starter...
     
  2. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Need some kinda old school Cincinnati/Bob Huggins goon. Either that type or a skilled no-nonsense Saric type Euro.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Yes. As is your ideology on WABC.
     
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    I don't even see that.
     
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    Chicago and stretch 4's scare me. As they seem to play well, then die off and are never the same.
     
  6. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I wonder if we could trade one of our later draft picks, plus Ezeli's expiring contract to NYK for Kyle O'Quinn plus one of their end of the bench contracts. I'm not sure how well O'Quinn would fit starting next to Nurkic, but he'd be a beast backing up both the 4 and 5 spots. With Porzingas and Hernangomez, O'Quinn will never get more than the 15 MPG he's averaging there this year and less going forward. He's a great rim protector and rebounder, a decent passer, not quite 27 and locked up on a cheap contract for another season. He's limited, but efficient offensively. Picture last year's Ed Davis, only with a lot more bulk and an elite shot blocker.

    The Knicks move a player that doesn't really figure in their plans and get Ezeli's expiring contract to shave nearly $7 million off their cap.

    I know this move also puts us over the luxury tax threshold, but we need to move a big contract (Crabbe) anyway. So, we might as well get something worthwhile out of Festus for the Rest of Us' expiring contract. Now that I think about it, O'Quinn is basically Festus with two good knees.

    BNM
     
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  7. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Agreed.

     
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  8. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    BLK% = 6.8 would be leading the league if he played enough minutes to quality.

    BNM
     
  9. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Problem is, they don't really have a bad contract to ditch outside of Noah, whom I assume we're not touching with a 10-foot pole. Lance Thomas, maybe, but at under 7M/year, he's a pretty affordable backup.

    Unless picking up O'Quinn is somehow worth being saddled with Noah, I don't see how it happens.
     
  10. Wizard Mentor

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    I hate to say this, but Terrance Jones, whose salary should be very small, is probably the answer.

    He Skill/$ should be huge.
     
  11. Mediocre Man

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    Still not wrong
     
  12. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Like I said, offer them one of our late picks, maybe the CLE pick + Ezeli's expiring contract. They need to also kick in one, or more of their end of bench guys to make the salaries match. They have couple small expiring contracts that could be used for this purpose. They get a 1st round pick and can waive Ezeli immediately to save about $5 million in cap space.

    We're already over the lux tax threshold, so we need to move someone like Crabbe anyway. This let's us leverage Ezeli's expiring contract, and having 3 first round picks, to address a position of need. Even if he doesn't start for us (although he's way better than anyone else we currently have tarting at the 4), O'Quinn would give us everything 2015-16 Ed Davis gave us + everything 2016-17 Festus Ezeli was supposed to give us in one player making $4 million.

    BNM
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You don't have to convince me that O'Quinn is worth dealing for; I'm just questioning the logistics. Since we're post-deadline, none of their expirings are tradeable anymore, so Kuzminskas is the only other end-of-bench guy on their roster that could theoretically be added to the deal suggested (other than minimum-salary guys Plumlee and N'Dour who don't make enough).

    So, the only way to make this work is Ezeli and a first (plus maybe Shabazz) for O'Quinn and Kuzminskas. Don't know if NY goes for that, but I'd be in favor.
     
  14. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Maurice Ndour is non-guaranteed for 2017-18 at $905K, That gets us within 500K of an O'Quinn for Ezeli + pick swap. Chasson Randle is on the books for $1.3 million in 2017-18, but I doubt if all of that is guaranteed, since only the first $100K of his 2016-17 salary was guaranteed.

    Those two might work, or maybe get a third team involved. Don't we also have a trade exception of something like $407K for the Plumlee trade, or did that expire at the deadline?

    BNM
     
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    Ezeli's NGC waiver date is 6/30/17, so for that to be of value to NY, the trade would have to occur before that date, so only the 16-17 contract amounts matter. For this league year, NDour is 543K, so not enough to get close enough to Ezeli's salary. And yes, we have a trade exception, but it's only $400K, so there isn't a player out there that would fit inside that slot.

    If using minimum salary guys, we could deal Ezeli+pick for OQuinn/NDour/Plumlee. Otherwise, Kuzminskas is really the only option (without using a third team). And of course, that's only if the Knicks value a first round pick more than O'Quinn himself.
     
  16. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Why is Ndour's NGC date different than Ezeli's? I just assumed (perhaps incorrectly) his non-guaranteed contract was like Ezeli's only smaller.

    BNM
     
  17. BigGameDamian

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    Just go after one of the Morris twins.
     
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    Reep Well-Known Member

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    There is a certain logic to this statement, but I would have a very hard time supporting either one as a Blazer. At least that would be one less person to light us up when we play them.
     
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    Noah + Shabazz for KOQ works.
     
  20. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Interesting...

    NYK will only have one PG under contract at the time of the draft - D-League call up Chasson Randle. Rose is expiring and they waived Brandon Jennings. They will most likely draft a PG based on both need and the fact that this is a PG rich draft. However, they may not want to throw that rookie into the starting role from day 1. In which case, a cheap semi-vet with one year remaining on his cheap rookie scale contract may be of interest to them.

    BNM
     

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