On The Fan Isaac Ropp just said

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  1. Pinwheel1

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    Yes start all three, and then slide Butler over. But someone like that should be the goal. Not making arguably a lateral move that fills onr need but creates another.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    You know who would be really good next to Dame and CJ? Nic and Wes.
     
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    That is OK but not good enough. ET and Butler together is not enough excellent outside shooting.
    Dame is not on every night, we need CJ for those nights he is off, or inevitably....injured.
     
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    Butler is averaging 23 ppg, 5 assists, 6 rebounds, and 2 steals. You don't think he could carry the load on offense if Dame is off?
     
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    Would seem like the logical candidate at this time. CJ + Picks?

    But I would go:
    Dame
    Butler
    Harkless
    Vonleh
    Nurkic

    Bench: Turner, Crabbe, Aminu, Biebs, etc.
     
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    No I think on a championship team he is the 3rd option. It's not like the Bulls are a 500 ball club either. Replacing one for the other is not good enough.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Too bad we cant afford them. Nic signed with CHO for $120 million over 5 years and Wes signed with DAL for $70 million over 4 years. Next season, those four will be making over $90 million combined and we still wouldn't have a decent PF.

    BNM
     
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    They're completely different though. The current problem is that Dame and CJ replicate too many of the same deficiencies. Butler might not be the shooter that CJ is, but he's a superior defender, he's a capable scorer, and he's a much bigger guy. We have other ball handlers, so why can't he be a #2 option? Dame #1, Butler #2, Nurkic #3. I see nothing wrong with that.
     
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    We really should do a deal for Butler and Mirotic. Mirotic is a bit of a wild card, but he could be very good on this team. Not sure how much of Chicago's culture we want to add at one time though.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    As long as we're not getting their owner and their GM, I think we'd be OK.

    BNM
     
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    Here is the podcast of yesterday's show.

    http://media.1080thefan.com/primetime-with-isaac-and-big-suke.htm

    I don't want to listen to all 4 hours. Can you tell me which hour of the show that Ropp was talking about CJ?
     
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    He posted the thread at 4:54pm, so I'd assume near the end of the second hour.
     
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    That's assuming that BGD knows how to spring forward.

    j/k

    Okay, so that narrows things down to 1:53 minutes. Tell me when you find it.
     
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    Yeah, I'm wrong. They talked about the Harbaughs during the last segment of that hour. Around 10 minutes into the second hour they're talking hoops, so...maybe.
     
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    I agree there is nothing wrong with it, but do you see it as making us contenders if he is the #2 option?
    I want Butler on his team but he is far from a sure thing. Does he even want to be in Portland? It's a factor.

    The Bulls have underachieved with him the last few years. I love him as our 3rd guy and while he is undoubtedly a very good player, I worry that offensively he thinks he is better than he is. How good would we be if LMA was still here (and healthy) and was our 3rd offensive option? Ego wise LMA would never accept that in Portland, but it would have been ideal. Can Butler? He should because it would work IMO.
     
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    Understatement of the year :)

    :cheers:
     
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    I love CJ, but I'm afraid I'd have to do that deal.

    :cheers:
     
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    How many teams contend without a top 5 caliber talent?

    The Cavs have LeBron.

    The Spurs have Kawhi.

    The Warriors have Curry and Durant.

    The real question you should be asking is whether or not Dame can be the #1 option on a contending team?
     
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    Boston will this year. But they have almost all above average to star players now it seems.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Every once in a while a team with a culmination of talent can overcome the star driven league, but it's rare. The Pistons did it with Sheed/Billups/Hamilton/Big Ben. You could probably even argue that the Spurs did it a few years back when Duncan was in the twighlight of his career and Kawhi hadn't really achieved star status, but most of the teams that have won have done so with a superstar talent.

    Cavs with LeBron
    Warriors with Curry
    Heat with LeBron
    Mavs with Dirk
    Lakers with Kobe
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