Does anyone else like NASCAR?

Seems odd, but it seems like people who like basketball, generally don't like NASCAR. (Save Brad Daugherty) Am I a loner nascar fan here? :no1:

Yep Nascar is the worst sport it's so boring I mean the only fun parts to watch are the crashes and the end of the race if it is close.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (moses2121 @ Feb 19 2007, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yep Nascar is the worst sport it's so boring I mean the only fun parts to watch are the crashes and the end of the race if it is close.</div>nascar is as much a sport as the spelling bee and the world series of poker

I don't understand how people don't think Nascar is a sport. People don't get killed playing poker. The room where the spelling bee is doesn't heat up to 150 degrees, plus the padding. Playing poker you are not driving at 200 mph, all while trying not to crash and possibly kill yourself. You aren't driving with a bunch of G's spelling radioisotope.You don't lose 20% of your body weight in water going all in.You have to have tons of endurance to race for 4 hours straight in a car with blazing hot temperatures and the constant mental strain of thinking about how to seal the person behind you off, or whether to go low or stay high.Do you guys consider dirt biking a sport? Snowmobiling?

I'm sure that redneck guy that posts in the off-topic debates board is a fan. Yep, redneck should be a fan. I don't consider a sport. Sports are athletics, athletics have athletes and Nascar has none.

I'm not going to get into an arguement on wether its a sport or not, but I'd say that NASCAR is more of a southern sport just like hockey is a northern sport. They just dont translate to some people do to where they are located. I'm from Texas and know a lot of people who watch it, but I would rather not.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Feb 19 2007, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm sure that redneck guy that posts in the off-topic debates board is a fan. Yep, redneck should be a fan. I don't consider a sport. Sports are athletics, athletics have athletes and Nascar has none.</div>sport /spɔrt, spoʊrt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[spawrt, spohrt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation?noun1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

NASCAR is not a sport. Because your sitting in a car and your not moving...there's no physical activity over than sweating your f*cking balls off going 180+ MPH...Hockeye is a sport for obvious reasons, just becasue it isn't extremely popular doesn't mean it isn't a sport. Racing is there for hte definition of sport but I have no f*cking clue why it is in there...it might be under the definition but we all know it really isn't...come on...I don't like NASCAR at all, first because it isn't a sport and it's all over ESPN right now...Just like I don't know why poker is on ESPN, it's not a sport either. NASCAR and horse racing are not sports in my opinion and I hate it when they are on sports TV...etc...I don't like NASCAR because it's pretty much who has the better edge with the car...and I don't really care about cars...not to mention thI just don't understand the hoopla over who wins the points race at the end....whoopty...I don't get it...and the Daytona 500 'the superbowl' of NASCAR is just like anyother race, all the same drivers, same basic concept...I just don't get the hype about it...When I watch MLB/NBA/NFL I am always amazed by what I see with the athletes...but with NASCAR it's just your average looking guy...what they do is amazing you know, driving that fast...but it just isn't for me at all...I don't get it at all...watching cars drive really fast just doesn't do it for me.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Feb 19 2007, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>sport /spɔrt, spoʊrt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[spawrt, spohrt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation?noun1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.</div>ath?let?ic /?θˈlɛtɪk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ath-let-ik] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation?adjective1. physically active and strong; good at athletics or sports: an athletic child.2. of, like, or befitting an athlete.3. of or pertaining to athletes; involving the use of physical skills or capabilities, as strength, agility, or stamina: athletic sports; athletic training.4. for athletics: an athletic field.5. Psychology. (of a physical type) having a sturdy build or well-proportioned body structure. Compare asthenic (def. 2), pyknic (def. 1).Driving is not a sport.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Feb 19 2007, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>NASCAR is not a sport. Because your sitting in a car and your not moving...there's no physical activity over than sweating your f*cking balls off going 180+ MPH...Hockeye is a sport for obvious reasons, just becasue it isn't extremely popular doesn't mean it isn't a sport. I don't like NASCAR at all, first because it isn't a sport and it's all over ESPN right now...Just like I don't know why poker is on ESPN, it's not a sport either. NASCAR and horse racing are not sports in my opinion and I hate it when they are on sports TV...etc...I don't like NASCAR because it's pretty much who has the best car...not to mention the chase for cup is really not that big of a deal to most people...I don't get it...and the Daytona 500 'the superbowl' of NASCAR is just like anyother race, all the same drivers, same basic concept...I just don't get the hype about it...When I watch MLB/NBA/NFL I am always amazed by what I see with the athletes...but with NASCAR it's just your average looking guy...what they do is amazing you know, driving that fast...but it just isn't for me at all...I don't get it at all...watching cars drive really fast just doesn't do it for me.</div>And in circles too...they could at least make it an interesting track...like a figure 8 or something at least.

Physically active and strong-How many fat Nascar drivers do you see? None? Thought so.Physical skills or capabilities-Agility and stamina in Nascar. Strong build, well-proportioned body structure-So Tayshaun Prince and David Wells aren't atheletes?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Feb 19 2007, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>NASCAR is not a sport. Because your sitting in a car and your not moving...there's no physical activity over than sweating your f*cking balls off going 180+ MPH...Hockeye is a sport for obvious reasons, just becasue it isn't extremely popular doesn't mean it isn't a sport. Racing is there for hte definition of sport but I have no f*cking clue why it is in there...it might be under the definition but we all know it really isn't...come on...I don't like NASCAR at all, first because it isn't a sport and it's all over ESPN right now...Just like I don't know why poker is on ESPN, it's not a sport either. NASCAR and horse racing are not sports in my opinion and I hate it when they are on sports TV...etc...I don't like NASCAR because it's pretty much who has the better edge with the car...and I don't really care about cars...not to mention the chase for cup is really not that big of a deal to most people...I don't get it...and the Daytona 500 'the superbowl' of NASCAR is just like anyother race, all the same drivers, same basic concept...I just don't get the hype about it...When I watch MLB/NBA/NFL I am always amazed by what I see with the athletes...but with NASCAR it's just your average looking guy...what they do is amazing you know, driving that fast...but it just isn't for me at all...I don't get it at all...watching cars drive really fast just doesn't do it for me.</div>You act like it's a nice drive down the park man. I'd be willing to bet none of you would last 5 laps in a race. You guys act like anyone can do it.I love hockey, but how did that get into this conversation?I guess I'm just gonna say this. If you don't like it, so be it. Why bash the heck out of it? I get mad when I hear someone say "Nascar is for poor hicks and rednecks." You could say the opposite for basketball, but I'm not going to say it because I'd be banned.I don't like soccer, but I won't bash it or insult the people who do like it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Feb 19 2007, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Physically active and strong-How many fat Nascar drivers do you see? None? Thought so.Physical skills or capabilities-Agility and stamina in Nascar. Strong build, well-proportioned body structure-So Tayshaun Prince and David Wells aren't atheletes?</div>They don't use any physical skills in Nascar. They may not be fat, but how many are in good enough shape for a real sport. Only thing that gets any activity is their hands and their forearms. There may be some usage of the triceps area and they may run away if their car is on fire but that's it. Agility and stamina for their cars more than the actual racers, although I know it's not easy. They are both strong and use more physical skills in their sport than any Nascar driver.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Feb 19 2007, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You act like it's a nice drive down the park man. I'd be willing to bet none of you would last 5 laps in a race. You guys act like anyone can do it.I love hockey, but how did that get into this conversation?I guess I'm just gonna say this. If you don't like it, so be it. Why bash the heck out of it? I get mad when I hear someone say "Nascar is for poor hicks and rednecks." You could say the opposite for basketball, but I'm not going to say it because I'd be banned.I don't like soccer, but I won't bash it or insult the people who do like it.</div>I'm not saying it's easy. Nothing worth doing is really easy. Riding horses isn't easy. Darts is challenging. Ping Pong is challenging. Arm wrestling is challenging. Pie eating contests are challenging and require endurance and agility. Statistics class is challenging. It has nothing to do with racing cars being tough or not. It's just not a sport.

Tayshaun might be skinny for NBA standards but he's probably a pretty strong guy, just doesn't put on weight. And David Wells is in MLB because he had an amazing arm, but generally most MLB fielders are good athletes.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Feb 20 2007, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They don't use any physical skills in Nascar. They may not be fat, but how many are in good enough shape for a real sport. Only thing that gets any activity is their hands and their forearms. There may be some usage of the triceps area and they may run away if their car is on fire but that's it. Agility and stamina for their cars more than the actual racers, although I know it's not easy. They are both strong and use more physical skills in their sport than any Nascar driver.</div> Most NASCAR drivers have personal trainers that they work with daily.

ENDURANCE IS A PHYSICAL SKILL!Brad Daugherty was sure in enough shape for another sport.Dirt bikers only use their arms. Snowboarders only use their legs. Surfers only use their legs. Snowmobilers only use their arms. Do you consider any of the above sports?How many times do I have to say this? It takes tons of endurance to go 4 straight hours in a 150 degree car while having to worry about not crashing and keeping your position. You have to be agile with your arms to avoid a split second crash.Alright, but you said it yourself, in order to be an athlete you have to have a huge body. Prince and Wells don't fall under that. (Wells is fat, not strong)

I didn't say you have to have a huge body, but real athletes are stronger and more well built than most drivers I think. Snowboarders and surfers actually use their body more. Again, I know that driving can be tough, but it just requires very little physical activity. It's mostly relying on your car. I know you need skill for it to avoid crashing, but a lot of non-sports activities require skill also. In order to be an athlete you actually have to use your body imo.

NASCAR!!!!! DERKA DERRRRRR!!!!!!

I dislike NASCAR and don't watch it. It's a big deal in our town where we carry the races at Dover Downs Speedway. It's insane on those weekends and ruins traffic with ignorant drivers.But back to the sport(and no argument here in not being a sport because it is), I just don't see how people can sit there and watch cars drive in circles. That's boring. And the bit of excitement you get out of it is crashes. Pretty bad when your supposed to have the opposite of an reaction.

I can lose 50 pounds while playing video games in a compact space. That does not make it a sport.Check and mate.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Feb 20 2007, 12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I didn't say you have to have a huge body, but real athletes are stronger and more well built than most drivers I think. Snowboarders and surfers actually use their body more. Again, I know that driving can be tough, but it just requires very little physical activity. It's mostly relying on your car. I know you need skill for it to avoid crashing, but a lot of non-sports activities require skill also. In order to be an athlete you actually have to use your body imo.</div>But all I am saying is that it fits into the definition of sport and athlete, yet people still say it doesn't count. And you guys still haven't answered my question. Is dirt biking a sport? Snowmobiling?1. physically active and strong; good at athletics or sports: an athletic child.2. of, like, or befitting an athlete.3. of or pertaining to athletes; involving the use of physical skills or capabilities, as strength, agility, or stamina: athletic sports; athletic training.4. for athletics: an athletic field.5. Psychology. (of a physical type) having a sturdy build or well-proportioned body structure. Compare asthenic (def. 2), pyknic (def. 1).sport /spɔrt, spoʊrt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[spawrt, spohrt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation–noun1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.You may not be a 250 pound linebacker, or a 7 foot center, but you don't have to be to play a sport. In NASCAR-People race to win a competitive season (MLB, NBA, NHL, NFL)People use their physical and mental abilities to win (MLB, NBA, NHL, NFL)People have to have endurance (MLB, NBA, NHL, NFL)People have to be physically and mentally tough (MLB, NBA, NHL, NFL)(And I would like to know how you could lose 50 pounds playing a video game.)Tell me how that doesn't make it a sport.And FYI, not all of the tracks are circular. A few tracks are different.Watkins Glen-Infinion-AHR-

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Feb 20 2007, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But all I am saying is that it fits into the definition of sport and athlete, yet people still say it doesn't count. And you guys still haven't answered my question. Is dirt biking a sport? Snowmobiling?</div>Dirt biking is a sport because it actually requires kinesthetic acuity to ride. You cannot ride without having good spatial awareness and so on. I think it's silly to even bring up dirt biking. Snowmobiling? I would say no, because most of the skill is coming from hand eye coordination and not physical ability. But that's just me.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Feb 20 2007, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In NASCAR-People race to win a competitive season (MLB, NBA, NHL, NFL)People use their physical and mental abilities to win (MLB, NBA, NHL, NFL)People have to have endurance (MLB, NBA, NHL, NFL)People have to be physically and mentally tough (MLB, NBA, NHL, NFL)(And I would like to know how you could lose 50 pounds playing a video game.)Tell me how that doesn't make it a sport.</div>Those things are all true, but I would say that they are taken out of context. In my example, I said that you could lose a ton of weight (50 pounds was an exaggeration, but I could DEFINITELY lose as much as any NASCAR driver) playing a game that requires mental intensity. Just because I am locked up in a burning death box does not mean I am playing a sport. I will continue to refute your idea later.