OT So, how's all that winning going for you?

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  1. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    you obliviously have A) Never been in uniform. B) Have no idea the the wait time to get into the VA system is over six months, C) The suicide rate of vets is 22 pr day because the system is broken. So tell me just what am I lying about?

    I would invite you to join me at my next appointment. You want to play some straw man argument with me against reality, you have picked the wrong tact.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Your lying about undocumented immigrants getting free healthcare.
     
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    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    you deny reality. I have personally witnessed this fact. That is okay, join me at my next appointment, see for your self. But I know, even if you watched it, it would not jive with your "beliefs"

    and, dude..dont call me a liar....I have honor, I have self respect, I do not lie. Your bull shit borders on the personal..and you should have more class than that
     
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    What a bitch! The same with me.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    1. Don't insult people and that includes calling someone a liar.

    2. It's you're, not your.
     
  6. MarAzul

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    SlyPokerDog is a fucking punk.
     
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    That was pretty good until the last part, lol.
     
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    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    How so, Brother? Inviting him to raise to another level? Suggesting that he is able to elevate his thinking? I was trying to be respectful...
     
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    The bull shit and class part of your comment. Not really a personal insult but attack what he posts and not him personally.

    Or just call me a fucking punk like Marazul.
     
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    okay, lets se...he is often fond of unsubstantiated rhetoric, so I suppose that I should have substituted that for bull shit...
     
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    1. My bad.

    2. Autocorrect.
     
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    Provide proof that undocumented people are receiving benefits or stop repeating that tired ass conservative hyperbole.

    Y'all can't have it both ways. They can't be be stealing your jobs whilst simultaneously collecting all the welfare.

    Do you see a Latino getting care and you just assume he's undocumented? How do you know they're undocumented?
     
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    What bugs me is that we focus on the outrage and ignore what is actually happening, things that would be front page news otherwise.

    Congress passed a bill, yes really! And Trump says he will sign! On a party line vote, people who file for unemployment will now have to undergo drug testing. Some states have drug testing for SNAP; the tests have cost states millions of dollars and uncovered very few users. (And most people receiving SNAP are families with children, mommy or daddy smoked pot so kids go hungry, say millionaire legislators). But unemployment is insurance, not government benefit, we all pay into it and use if/when needed. On a national scale this will cost tens of millions of dollars. Fiscal responsibility be damned, the important thing is to humiliate poor and working people.

    Congress is also looking at a bill to outlaw union shops nationally.

    Environmental regulations are not just returning to pre-Obama days, they are returning to pre-Nixon days. After all, look how polluted Russia is!

    Trump is sending to the United Nations International Conference on Women, not two conservative women - that would be expected, and a lot of conservative women still recognize 98% of heterosexually active women use birth control and that women are in the workforce to stay. He sent two hard line opponents of women's rights who belong to organizations that call for outlawing all birth control, abortion under all circumstances, no sex education, abolish Title IX, repeal Violence Against Women Act and above all, ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHTS FOR GAYS.

    Corporate titans like the Kochs backed Trump, as did the religious right. They knew he is stupid, ignorant about how government works, mentally unstable, a terrible manager, a pathological liar, concerned only with his ego and his wealth. But make him president, he'll get rid of environmental regulations and unions and give the rich a big tax cut. Make him president and he will appoint judges, not just to the Supreme Court, but the hundreds of openings Senate refused to fill when Obama was president (some go back to his first term) who promise to outlaw abortion, birth control, and gay rights. You know the expression "useful fool"?

    One individual, and I swear I am not making this up, proclaimed that eliminating Meals on Wheels proves Trump was sent by god. Because some meals are being delivered to gay men with AIDS. And god must oppose such a program, and as a Christian he must oppose it, because we must not help those sinners. I thought Christians believed "we are all sinners" but apparently gay folks are different and worse than you ordinary hetero sinners.

    On a state level, Kentucky just passed a bill permitting discrimination against gay, lesbian, bi and transgender students. At state supported schools, student organizations had previously been open to any student who supported their aims, but some Christian groups did not want gay Christians. So now any organization can exclude gays if their religion says so.

    Texas is passing a law that would permit doctors to withhold information and flat out lie to pregnant patients. Pregnant patients almost universally will ask if everything is OK with the fetus; if its' high risk due to patient's personal or family history, she might ask if the fetus has condition X. Doctors can now withhold the information, or tell a patient no the fetus does not have condition X, if he/she thinks the patient might terminate the pregnancy if she has accurate information. Patients cannot sue doctors for lying to them. Needless to say, the bill includes no financial aid for parents of severely ill or disabled child and no social services for the child, since "life begins at conception and ends at birth".

    So let's all focus on Trump making shit up about President Obama. Like any stage magician, focus on the shiny object and miss the trick. Which is to return the country to the 1950s, or maybe the 1850s, but with Twitter.
     
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    weak

    again, I invite you to attend my next appointment, see for yourself. Not hard to figure out.

    As to providing proof

    http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/Neal...hcare-illegal-emergency/2013/05/09/id/503579/

    https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welco....google.com/&referrer=https://www.google.com/

    http://cis.org/medicaid-costs

    I can find proof all day.

    You just keep drinking the koolaid. I am finished. Goes right back to why I seldom even try to converse with those like yourself. You are not open to hearing the truth. So, I will go back to reading, laughing and go along my way.
     
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    About that...

    The VA is socialism. Healthcare paid for by taxes on hard-working job-creators. How can you support it in good conscience? You KNOW Paul Ryan has it in his sights, and apparently Donald's on board with whatever Paul says is okay.
     
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    I have VA benefits but never use them because I always feel some vet in serious condition will get bumped for my needs which aren't really pressing..The VA is grossly understaffed...they need more docs, medics and clinics..always have.
     
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    Agree, riverman, I briefly worked at VA in Oakland. Hideously understaffed and staff received very low pay - obvious connection there! It was in my clinical lab days, I had just landed in California and as soon as I got a better job I left. I mean, they paid maybe half of what I got in a hospital.
     
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    To quote that article:

    So, by your reasoning, Obama is responsible for THOUSANDS OF MURDERS, because, although there are laws in place prohibiting them, people NONETHELESS MURDERED while he was president.

    You know what's the only SURE way to ensure that nobody gets anything they're not 100% entitled to? Destroy all life on earth!

    That'll be Trump's platform for 2020.
     
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    It's almost as if politicians didn't REALLY care about our Vets. Maybe those same politicians who cut funding for security at that Embassy in Benghazi.
     
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