PG:Chauncey Billups-pick him up on offseason, I know, very unlikely, but this is best case scenario.SG:Mike Miller-We know what he does, bring great 2 guard passing, shooting, and rebounding.SF:Rudy Gay-Our sweet 2nd scorer, becomes a star, and makes that Rockets deal look good for both teams.PF-Pau Gasol-OUr 1st option, probably wont be traded. Hes the guy we go to for low post offense.C-Greg Oden-probably wont come in and get 15+ppg in rookie season, but will surely be a top rebounder and shot blocker, and will bring very solid offense anyways.Off the Bench:Hakim WarrickAlexander JohnsonKyle LowryLawrence RobertsDahntey JonesChucky AtkinsDamon Stoudamire(probably be traded if we pick up Billups)Yeah, this is very unlikely due to Billups probably going to resign with Detriot....but even without him, Memphis is a 50 win team again. Im pretty excited.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Memphis Fan @ Feb 21 2007, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PG:Chauncey Billups-pick him up on offseason, I know, very unlikely, but this is best case scenario.SG:Mike Miller-We know what he does, bring great 2 guard passing, shooting, and rebounding.SF:Rudy Gay-Our sweet 2nd scorer, becomes a star, and makes that Rockets deal look good for both teams.PF-Pau Gasol-OUr 1st option, probably wont be traded. Hes the guy we go to for low post offense.C-Greg Oden-probably wont come in and get 15+ppg in rookie season, but will surely be a top rebounder and shot blocker, and will bring very solid offense anyways.Off the Bench:Hakim WarrickAlexander JohnsonKyle LowryLawrence RobertsDahntey JonesChucky AtkinsDamon Stoudamire(probably be traded if we pick up Billups)Yeah, this is very unlikely due to Billups probably going to resign with Detriot....but even without him, Memphis is a 50 win team again. Im pretty excited.</div>50 win team? You've gone too far. Way too far.Also, the Rockets trade already favors Memphis. But if you want best case scenario, you better add someone like Sean Williams from the second round to your bench.
Yes, I seriously believe memphis is around a 45-50 win team...like previous years to this. But people have to understand, its almost impossible for a team to turn into a uptempo team in the middle of the season and be successful with it. After a summer of HEALTHY players coming back into training camp, with a new and fresh coach to teach a style, I think Memphis is going to be successful.We are TERRIBLE at defense(which ironically we were the best defensive team last season...probably due to Battier)and thats because the Griz have no idea how to play defense as a uptempo team...which is defiently going to be the main focus on the offseason, as for our offense, we are a top team in scoring. You cant convince me that Memphis is REALLY as bad as they seem this season. The only significant loss as in players we have is Battier...who Rudy Gay will feel in that spot probably even better, because Rudy is capable of being a defensive stopper AND a scoring option. Memphis is bad this season cause of several reasons...but lack of talent, chemistry or good teammates ISNT one of the reasons.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Memphis Fan @ Feb 21 2007, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, I seriously believe memphis is around a 45-50 win team...like previous years to this. But people have to understand, its almost impossible for a team to turn into a uptempo team in the middle of the season and be successful with it. After a summer of HEALTHY players coming back into training camp, with a new and fresh coach to teach a style, I think Memphis is going to be successful.We are TERRIBLE at defense(which ironically we were the best defensive team last season...probably due to Battier)and thats because the Griz have no idea how to play defense as a uptempo team...which is defiently going to be the main focus on the offseason, as for our offense, we are a top team in scoring. You cant convince me that Memphis is REALLY as bad as they seem this season. The only significant loss as in players we have is Battier...who Rudy Gay will feel in that spot probably even better, because Rudy is capable of being a defensive stopper AND a scoring option. Memphis is bad this season cause of several reasons...but lack of talent, chemistry or good teammates ISNT one of the reasons.</div>I will bet anyone that Memphis will not make the playoffs next season. I would be willing to put big money into it.I will bet anyone that Memphis will not even get 40+ wins next season. I'd put big money on that too.Hey Memphis Fan, your bias is showing.
okay, we'll see....I would defiently put big money on we win atleast 40 games next season...why not? This season is almost understandable....unless we do a cleanout, our team next year, healthy and all, will not be much different from last season except even MORE players who can produce, Hakim Warrick, Lowry, Rudy, maybe the lotto pick...and maybe that major free agent.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>can somebody please pin this topic...I want to keep this for next season.</div>Why? It's just wishful thinking. Things have to fall for Grizz in order for them to have a successful offseason. First off is Gasol who you have on the roster. He's still a question mark and I'm pretty sure the Grizz will field more offers than now for Gasol. The chances of him being traded are higher than him staying imo.Same goes for Oden. Lotto can be a crapshoot, and worse when certain players don't declare. Then comes free agency. I don't believe this is the first year Grizz have had cap room. So what makes this year any different in them landing that marquee free agent. It's similar to Raptors, players have to be willing to come. Money talks but I don't remember free agents marking Memphis as a top destination.
we had some cap a couple seasons ago, which we got as much we could get with it..Damon Stoudamire. It has been expressed that Gasol just wont be traded. but we will get his worth. We arent bad because lack of talent or leadership, but when a team loses his best player during the summer, and loses him for a pretty long time in the season, that will completely get your screwed up. Then you have your coach fired, and a whole new system of style. Which the new system is difficult to be successful with when you switch to it in the middle of the season. Then, we are trying to plug in Rudy and Warrick here and there trying to get new rotations worked for the new system AND we have terrible defense, mainly because we didnt have the luxury of a training camp to work on the uptempo/fastbreak defense. Alotve things went wrong this season, but that doesn't mean we're going to be a horrible team the next season. Theres been alotve stuff that is usually dealt with in the offseason, and will be dealt with after this season. Like Jerry West pointed out, with alotve players, its where the money is....theres been several major FA signings to teams with bad records. But even without the lotto pick or a FA signing, Memphis is a alright team, and is capable of winning 40+games. Unless your under the circumstances of Memphis...injuries, front office issues...you never see a team drop off from a 50 win team to a 14 win team. And I believe that Memphis will be back to that status of 40+wins again. Its not wishful thinking, its a great possibility.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Its not wishful thinking, its a great possibility.</div>You and Sunnyd are talking about next year's record. I'm talking about your post indicating the moves surrounding the offseason. Which is wishful thinking. I don't think there's a great possibility of Billups, Oden and Gasol all on board. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>which we got as much we could get with it..Damon Stoudamire.</div>Stoudamire is not a great pickup with a team with cap. Like I said, I don't see many teams lining up for Memphis. Money talks, so they may pickup someone but I don't see any homerun free agents.
Well, I wouldnt call getting Oden a great possibility either, but I wouldnt say its not outve the picture. Its pretty clear that Gasol is most likely staying, and Ben Wallace suprised about people when he left. You never know with a player, but we have about $13,000,000 in cap I believe, and if somehow we do trade Gasol to the Bulls, we will probably get PJ Browns expiring as well. But the topic is "best case scenario"...so no need for you to say its wishful thinking...its obvious. Damon Stoudamire was a HUGE pickup for us last season. With him, we were like top 6 in best records..which we fell with alotve losing streaks following Damons injury...he meant alot to us last year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>so no need for you to say its wishful thinking...its obvious.</div>I'm saying it because you want this topic pinned. For what reason I have no idea, it's not happening as you stated, so why does this need to be pinned. So you can look back and see how it didn't happen. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Damon Stoudamire was a HUGE pickup for us last season.</div> I like how you capitilized HUGE to correspond to the word. The signing came at the tailend of the offseason, meaning he wasn't a sought after free agent. Just like my point that I don't believe the caproom Grizz have will amount to anything big. Damon Stoudamire is not a player you go and say "Wow, we saved our cap just for him." You just don't.
He was choosing between Houston and Memphis...thats why it was a late offseason pickup. And is was a pretty big pickup, as I mentioned before, with him we were a better team, a way better team. Its hard to explain, but he was just one of those players that made us a top team in the NBA. When he went down with the season injury, even though we had Bobby Jackson to replace him, we still werent the same and went of several losing streaks. Even though he wasnt a blockbuster free agent, he was a major addition, and we benefited from the signing greatly...of course until he got hurt.
