Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 11:40 am ESTNew Jersey Nets' sources say the team isn't interested in trading point guard Jason Kidd to the Los Angeles Lakers for Jordan Farmar, Aaron McKie, Kwame Brown, Chris Mihm and a couple of picks.However, if Lakers' center Andrew Bynum was involved, the Nets would seriously consider the trade.</div>Screw this. Bynum is the future. The Nets can take their selfish selves and rot with an old Kidd!Also, we'd have no big man presence whatsoever.Source
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down WTF? F*ck that. WHos going to be our Center? Its basically 7 for 1 trade.
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down If Bynum is demanded to be in the deal, I don't think the Lakers will do it. This is why I don't think the Lakers are good trading partners for a star player at all, unless a 3rd team is involved. The only valuable young chip they have is Bynum, but of course they want to keep him (and I don't blame them). I don't know if I see a Kidd to LA deal happening unless they find a 3rd party... and if they aren't exploring that right now, I don't see anything working out by tomorrow afternoon.
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down The Nets are acting really selfish. There basically trying to get all our young players in exchange for Kidd. Yes the Kidd would be a great fit for us but if there not willing to do a fair deal then it's not worth it.
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down This would be a very bad idea. Kidd is what, 34? He will gave you 2-3 more good years, but that's it. Bynum has the potential to be a GREAT center, and great centers are almost extinct in the NBA. Bynum is only 19, and could be great for many, many years. The Lakers have a great project on their hands. They should not let go of him.
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Feb 21 2007, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This would be a very bad idea. Kidd is what, 34? He will gave you 2-3 more good years, but that's it. Bynum has the potential to be a GREAT center, and great centers are almost extinct in the NBA. Bynum is only 19, and could be great for many, many years. The Lakers have a great project on their hands. They should not let go of him.</div>Nitro gave a good point in a thread. Bynum has only been playing well because of Kareem. He leaves LA he looses his mentor, Kareem
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinoy Balla @ Feb 21 2007, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nitro gave a good point in a thread. Bynum has only been playing well because of Kareem. He leaves LA he looses his mentor, Kareem</div>That isn't completely true, you act as if Bynum is only playing well because of Kareem..
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinoy Balla @ Feb 21 2007, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nitro gave a good point in a thread. Bynum has only been playing well because of Kareem. He leaves LA he looses his mentor, Kareem</div>Ya Kareem have been helping him out this whole year, that's why he's been improving. But then the Nets are selfish. No way the Lakers would ever give a future star for some soon to be legend. And this is a bad way for the Nets to rebuild. It's obvious that they are trying to rebuild, but you can't expect yo get that much out of Kidd, but VC's expiring will attract other teams. They might as well start off with their draft picks this year, since it'll most likely be lotto. And the Lakers are smart enough to not take that deal, Even if Kidd will help them out a lot.
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down No way you trade Bynum for Kidd. Bynum should be untoachable IMO
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Feb 21 2007, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No way you trade Bynum for Kidd. Bynum should be untoachable IMO</div>Why? It isn't like he has such a huge upside that a Amare, Howard, or Bosh had in their 2nd years in the league. You would be trading for arguably the best PG in the game that INSTANTLY makes your team much better defnesively on the perimeter, better rebounding, gives you a MUCH better playmaker, makes your fastbreaking a lot easier and frequent, and another player to go to in clutch. He also gives you great veteran leadership, which the Lakers are lacking.I think in order for this trade to go down, there will need to be a 3rd team. NJ would be getting robbed. If Kobe, Odom or Bynum isn't in the deal, there is nothing the Lakers could offer that would be near equal value for Kidd.
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down If they threw Richard Jefferson in I would consider...but if they think we are giving up all 3 seven footers the F*ck them...But our ESPN Radio station said that Kidd demanded a trade to the Lakers to play with a guy like Kobe after they lost to New Orleans tonight. Maybe that will hurt Vince Carters feelers lol
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Feb 22 2007, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If they threw Richard Jefferson in I would consider...but if they think we are giving up all 3 seven footers the F*ck them...But our ESPN Radio station said that Kidd demanded a trade to the Lakers to play with a guy like Kobe after they lost to New Orleans tonight. Maybe that will hurt Vince Carters feelers lol</div>Again....NO WAY IN HELL WOULD THE NETS TRADE RJ!!! Unlike say Andre Bynum, he is a PROVEN all star caliber player and 1st or 2nd option on a team. He is a proven 20/7 guy who can shoot a high %, and has improved every year. If you wanted RJ as well you'd have to throw in Odom.
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down Why are you guys saying the Nets are being selfish? I suppose you guys just want us to hand you Kidd for nothing? Sure, why not? We are the Nets people, not the Knicks.
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jkidd51524 @ Feb 22 2007, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why are you guys saying the Nets are being selfish? I suppose you guys just want us to hand you Kidd for nothing? Sure, why not? We are the Nets people, not the Knicks.</div>I agree, if the nets did trade you guys kidd what would you expect them to do ask for all old farts who can't play anymore, I mean they would be trying to rebuild and get some young talent not get scrubs.
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down Bynum isnt going to get traded.....period. He is too talented for his age, and he has way too much of an upside. I dont care if Richard Jefferson was even thrown in to this deal. The Lakers would still be skeptical about trading Bynum.
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down Bynum, Bryant and Odom should be untouchable in LA, the only good trade bait the Lakers can offer besides Bynum would be Chris Mihm or Mihm and Kwame Brown with Farmar thrown in for good measure. To hell with that, the Lakers should be fine when they finally get healthy.
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Feb 22 2007, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bynum isnt going to get traded.....period. He is too talented for his age, and he has way too much of an upside. I dont care if Richard Jefferson was even thrown in to this deal. The Lakers would still be skeptical about trading Bynum.</div>Again, this kid isn't Amare Stoudemire or Dwight Howard. He is not very athletic, nor is he specially talented in the post. He is not half as skilled as a young Shaq, which is what everyone seems to compare him to. I'm sorry, but if Lakers could bag a proven all star who gives you 20/7 a night on high shooting % and still has room to improve, then if I were them I'd go for it.Now, this is assuming they wanted RJ. They don't need him with odom there, and without Bynum they'd be lacking a bit in the interior. But if they wanted him, I wouldn't be skeptical of trading Bynum for RJ.It sucks for LA that this deal wasn't done. No way in hell are the Lakers going anywhere without that 3rd option, better PG and veteran leader (Kidd fits all that criteria). I just don't see them beating the Mavs, Suns, Spurs, Jazz or Rockets in a 7 game series with the players they have.
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down Dude, Bynum is the youngest player in the NBA, he already made a shitload of progress from last year, and he could be on the level of Amare in a few years IMO. They play totally different games, but Drew does have an inside game, he is strong, he can defend, and he knows how to throw it down. The Lakers arent going to trade a future All-Star for an injury prone player like Jefferson. If I was the Lakers, I wouldnt trade them straight up. Bynum is going to be good and you are blind if you dont think so.
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down I'm glad we didn't trade Bynum in a deal for Kidd. That's just my opinion. I would have loved to see Kidd in a Laker uniform but not for the price of giving up Bynum.
Re: Bynum MUST be in Kidd to LA deal if it's going down <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Feb 23 2007, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dude, Bynum is the youngest player in the NBA, he already made a shitload of progress from last year, and he could be on the level of Amare in a few years IMO. They play totally different games, but Drew does have an inside game, he is strong, he can defend, and he knows how to throw it down. The Lakers arent going to trade a future All-Star for an injury prone player like Jefferson. If I was the Lakers, I wouldnt trade them straight up. Bynum is going to be good and you are blind if you dont think so.</div>He IS going to be good with kareem's help, but there is never a guarantee that he will be a 20/10 type guy. As I said, this kid doesn't have near the upside of a Dwight Howard or Amare Stoudemire. Outside of the fact that he is over 7ft tall and working with Kareem he isn't especially talented in any area. He is not very athletic, he cannot run the court, his game is restricted just to the post, and he doesn't have the skill or overall look of domiance of a young Shaq, which everyone seems to compare him to.RJ is not injury prone. Before this year, he had only one injury that kept him out for an extended period (somewhat of a freak accident when he fell on wrist after dunking). He is a proven all star caliber player, and like Bynum, still improving. His jumpshot is dramatically better from a few years ago, and everyone says he has worked very hard in offseason to continue to improve it. He's good in just about every category, and has proven he can be a 1st or 2nd option for a team.
