I agree. I have been saying this since July. Certain teams will gladly take our players, but if they don't want them....a draft pick will NOT sway them. Now if we were getting an excellent players back in return......then the picks might be an incentive. I agree about the Nets. When is the date we can trade Crabbe to them? (if we want) Is it the 1 year anniversary of him signing the offer sheet? They need help
I wish we were a 5th or 6th seed this year; facing Golden State will probably cut their playoff run shorter than it deserved to be.
we'd likely get a verbal agreement with Brooklyn on a Crabbe trade before free agency started. This would allow us to come to verbal agreements with free agents that would become final once we were actually able to trade Crabbe. I might have misunderstood your first post. I thought that you were saying that we needed to trade a first-round pick to get teams to take on those guys. But I definitely agree that if they don't want them in the first place a late first won't help
You're delusional if you think these are realistic. I'm not going to argue the point, but we'll see this summer just how tradeable Crabbe, Turner, & Meyers are.
LMAO. The Nets wanted to give Crabbe that contract. They have all the cap in the world, so Leonard wouldn't matter much. They'd easily trade a pick for Harkless. The Kings have some bad contracts, but still have some cap space to get rewarded for taking on contracts. They won't be able to sign anyone so getting Turner and a pick makes sense for them. How am I delusional? I specifically brought up certain situations and many reasons why those guys will be tradeable. Instead of discussing anything in the most, you deviously came back with: "You're delusional, because they're not tradeable". You have no logic backing that up. Crabbe is very tradeable. Harkless well be wanted. Those two are valuable enough that a team won't care about Meyers $9M. Then attach a pick with Turner. Simple. Why isn't that realistic?
One thing i'v been doing when approcahing if we can trade Turner ect is looking at there contracts and reducing it to the value of a contract in 2015 because I keep having to remind myself that these contracts are they way they are because of the inflated cap and I keep looking at it through the cap before it balooned,so if I can't keep myself from looking at ti through the lens of how we have veiwed contracts the last 5 years I need to readjust how I view them. Turner 3/54m 17% of cap Crabbe 3/56 17% of cap Harkless 3/31 10% of cap Meyers Leonard 3/31 10% of cap 103m is the projected cap if we reduce these contracts to what they would be 2015 70m cap FA we get Turner at 3/36 Crabbe 3/36 Harkless 3/21 Meyers 3/21 Heck even Woj said other teams have interested in Crabbe/Harkless/Meyers and it wouldn't' be hard at all to move them. Looking at the contracts through a different lens doesn't make me hate these contracts, although a lot of that might have to do with the fact they all drop down to 3 year deals. A lot of teams in the league would love to have a lights out shooter like Crabbe as their starting 2 guard, Harkless is 23 and shows flashes of huge potential on a contract that teams can easily talk themsleves into thinking he could end up being a steal, same for even Meyers since he shoots above average from the 3p line allows teams to talk themselves into him because of how 3p orientated the league has become. The only contract that doesn't seem easily moved would be Turner because he has a higher salary and teams aren't going to be begging us to take him off our hands because he is a bad 3p shooter and needs the ball in his hands and with how many good guards their are in the league every team has an above average guard who they want handling the ball. There is no way you can convince me that Harkless/Crabbe are negative contracts, Meyers is but I don't think he is a such a horrible contract that we need to unload a 1st rounder to move him. Turner I think we would need to unload a 1st rounder to move.
They underachieved all year until Nurk arived. They also didn't play any defense until he got here. They don't "deserve" anything.
