Everyone is entitled to their opinion. There is no need for name calling and childish behavior. 98% of this board hates everything about the Rangers and knocks all the players and coaches all the time. Okay you are entitled to your opinions. There is no need for name calling and no need to knock the 2% of fans on this board who don't agree with that. Maybe that's why there are about 6 regular posters on this board. Wouldn't it be great if there was a whole community of Ranger fans on the board that can have good debates and disagree without the name calling. Come on now.
I don't think you need to celebrate anything. You can live in misery, that's your right. You just don't need to rip the 2% of the 8 total posters on this board who don't agree with you. Pretty simple. Not everyone wants to be a "fan" of a team yet rip that team non-stop every day and every night. I don't see an issue with that.
Certainly your right. Not everyone has to agree with that. Personally I don't know how it can possibly be fun to be a "fan" of a team and rip them all the time, coaches and some/most of the players, but again that is your right man. Good for you. Imagine what it would be like if this team was truly as bad as the posts in here would make you believe. Clearly this is not a top team. Clearly their D zone structure is terrible way too often. But this is a solid team, that can get hot and win a round or two in the Atlantic. Not saying they will, but they can with that draw.
Everyone on this board love the Rangers and want this team to win a cup. But those of us, including me, who live in reality and realize that this team cannot and will not win the cup this year are not bad fans who are miserable. They will not win with this roster and with this coach. Hank cannot win a game by himself anymore. Perhaps it is not his fault but more of the system that they play. Hank just said in the post game, "they have a lot of great looks and time to make a play and shoot". I blame AV's stupid system. I work on LI and entire office are Islanders fans. They all such idiots who still believe the Islanders will make the playoffs and win the cup. When Isles were closing on the 8th spot, they all were walking around saying how Washington are afraid to play them. Does that make them real fans? No! It makes them idiots who don't understand hockey and the NHL. To that point, dump is not miserable, and he is not trying to take everyone down with his misery. Dump is saying that this team, this year is simply not a good team and most likely they will lose to MTL. If some of you want to believe, then believe, but the reality is a reality. I predict 4:2 MTL wins. I believed in Rangers during Torts years way more because within Torts system they played team defense that helps a goalie like Lundqvist. Rangers had a way better chance to win a game 2:1 or 1:0 back then and win a series.
Chuck, the team is not terrible. They are good regular season team as the head guy's system is. Just not good enough as always in the postseason. You are that kind of fan who knows the team is not a strong playoff team but will still say safe things just in case they will make a good run like in 2013-14 season.
And for the record, I am starting to dislike the coach also. Once again, there have just been way too many times the players were lost in the D zone the past 2 seasons. Weak side no Ranger to be seen. Slot wide open. Just terrible structure and discipline. It has happened too often to not say coaching plays a role. Personally I think the Rangers need a coach between Torts and AV. Torts was too much D and collapse and block when he was here. And AV is too loose and not tough enough based on what I have seen. Need a happy medium. So I get it, and am getting frustrated with the constant D zone breakdowns. And if they lose to the Habs in round 1, a change is needed I think. Won't happen, but I would be on board. But I'll let it play out first before I go off and jump ship.
Apparently you live in your own reality 2009, because I don't recall anyone writing this team will win the Cup this season. I do see about 2 or 3 honest fans on this board writing they can make a run in the Atlantic bracket if they play well, but I don't see anyone saying they'll beat the Pens, or Caps, or Hawks in the playoffs. And I'm not Chuck, but I'll say what I think is honest. I won't sit here and rip everything, not sure what the point of that is. I will say I believe they can make a run in the Atlantic IF they get their game back together. The way they are playing now, and have been for the past 4-6 weeks, yeah they'll lose in 6 tops to Montreal (maybe 5). That's not safe, that's honest and real. Sorry if I am going that route instead of saying they suck and have no shot to beat any team.
Same shit happened last year. I just dont see any progression from last year. Same BS from this coach and the players.
This team is better than last season's team. This team will also have a better road with Montreal, instead of playing the red hot best team in the NHL as they did last season in round 1. But again, I will not argue at all. The coach frustrates me. The D zone play angers me. The pathetic face-offs anger me. And if we don't play much better than we have been playing we'll lose to Montreal for sure. But they are a better and deeper team than last season I think.
These two guys have something in common. Their systems have a shelf life of two years max. We are seeing it with AV now for the last two years.
Hard to argue right now when we see what this team has done in their own zone for 2 years running. They lose to Montreal and I'll be on board. But I want to see the playoffs play out before I hang the guy. That is fair I feel.
Rangers are NY Knicks of the early 90s. This team will die in a few years and most likely major rebuild is coming. Just like one of you said, 98-2005 was not fun but it is going to happen again very soon. I want to see Rangers win a cup in Lundqvist era and this era is closing in very soon. Many say the window is already closed, but I believe there is still few years left. I don't want them to win 2 series and then lose in ECF. Rangers been there done that. Anything short of the Stanley Cup is a disappointment. During Jagr days Rangers made the playoffs and won one series which was awesome and exciting for all of us, however we are passed that in 2017. We want the Cup! So some of us are already disappointed and upset that it won't happened this year. And the fact that AV most likely still be the coach next year is way more upsetting.
This has now actually turned into a solid discussion with at least some really good opinions being expressed. Pretty much what message boards are for. If we disagree we disagree. Nobody should take it personally. What's not acceptable is somebody coming by for the purpose of just personally attacking people. If you're going to tell a grown man to shut up then to it to his face and not hiding behind a keyboard. Simple point there's no reason for that type of complete immature nonsense around here. It's sad that a lot of posters don't come around her anymore or many not nearly as much as they used to. There's a reason for that.
Is what it is this year, all we can do is watch and root and hope. I still think it's more a defenseman personnel thing with the breakdowns than structure but could be both at fault. I think the bigger issue which could hurt more are the continuous failures to convert odd man opportunities. You need to gain an edge there just as you do with special teams. Other teams seem to make us pay alot more on the rush than we do them. Lundqvist has been ok since returning but i wouldn't be surprised if we see Raanta some in the playoffs, especially if the Bell Ctr thing flairs up.
LOL...You are the one who should talk. You take this shit too seriously and start antagonizing the posters who say anything negative about the team's performance.
It's both. Team defense blows as these players don't give a crap about defensive end of the ice. They want to win every game 5:4. Not sustainable in the long run.
If they get bounced in the first round it's a bummer but not the worst thing as we have young players gaining exp.and a 1st rounder for the 1st time in awhile. Next year if they retool the D and the forwards return intact i think is when they can be viewed more as a SC contender. Who knows what happens with AV but i doubt he's going anywhere. Hopefully Gorton and Co. are already thinking Girardi buyout and Klein gone as that is major.
I state a difference of a opinion. I don't personally attack anyone which has long been Dump's mo. I warned a while go about people leaving the board and Dump mainly met it with oh well or those people should grow up. Well now they're gone so that clearly went well. Al for one was often times the recipient of ridiculous attacks. Do you see him very often if at all anymore? Even 31 took off I guess. Hey if you think that's cool then keep supporting that type of behavior. Like I said bickering back and fourth or disagreeing is one thing. One clown who wants to constantly make it personal with people is something else entirely.
