MVP Race- According To The Mouth Breathers....

How about 4 or more versus 3 or less? Six versus five feels like it's comparing very bad to bad.

 

Here's another one for the Westbrook fan boys/Lillard haters:

If Dame shot the ball as much as Westbrook, based on his superior shooting percentages, he'd be averaging 33.9 ppg. That would be the second highest scoring average in the last 29 years.

BNM

 

I have a question.
How many times did the Cavs make the playoffs or get to .500 without LBJ sense he entered the league?

 

That seems to tell the story that his turnovers are generally unforced by defense, which makes sense given his scoring (nobody is stopping him). So in this case, his turnovers are more a factor of how much he's handling the ball. And given how much his success and the team's are intertwined, low TO games are probably low USG games, meaning low scoring games..? More likely to lose then that leaves 6+ as a "bad game" for Russ.

 

Will Perdue and Steve Kerr have more than all them..with two teams

 

Robert Horry says hi.

 

I think D'Antoni should probably get coach of the year for the way he's put this roster in motion...he's changed Harden's game for the better...Harden is my runner up for MVP but I still say Westbrook has done something beyond any of them and really willed his team to what success they have ...I never thought Oscar Roberston's record would fall.

 

No it's not. Being "valuable" towards your teams own mediocrity isn't an accomplishment.

 

If Westbrook was getting only 5 rebounds a game, he'd have no chance at MVP. He knew that going in, so all season he's chased after rebounds. Chased as in: jumped in front of teammates, ran away from his own guy while he shoots to get to the front of the rim to rebound, etc.

His triple-double isn't as impressive to me because he tried so hard to get it. It didn't come naturally.

He's inefficient, and if he were to shoot every possession with nearly the same percentages, the team would score 95 points per 100 possessions.

He's also not clutch, and has a tendency to shoot his team out of games.

Therefore, his scoring isn't impressive, his rebounding is bullshit, and his defense suffers due to rebound chasing. BPM gets inflated because of this, and guys like HCP love it.

His passing is the only (somewhat) impressive thing about his game. Even that's inflated because his usage rate is so damn high.

An inefficient chucker, ball dominant rebound chaser should not win MVP. IDGAF about his triple double. That's for young NBA fanboys to geek out over. "He just got his 10th rebound!!! Another triple double baby!!! GOAT! SWERVE! *then dabs*" type shit.... Compared to "He only had 9 rebounds. Damnit. He had a bad game." One rebound by a PG to these fanboys is the difference between a good and bad game.

This dude shouldn't be top 3 in MVP voting.

 

I think the kids say: Get rekt.

 

if westbrick is MVP why didnt his team win when they had 2 other MVPs on their team? simple, because they are all trash teammates.

 

Exactly. They diminish each others impact.

I honestly think a starting lineup of:
Conley
Middleton
Lebron
Millsap
Gobert

Would be WAYYY better than
Westbrook
Harden
Durant
Love
Cousins

Even though the latter lineup has the assumed advantage at 4 positions.

It's all about how pieces mesh.

 

Harden scores 2.5 PPG less than Westbrook, while shooting the same amount of free throws, and SIX less FGs per 36 minutes.

If Harden shot as many shots per 36 (with the same efficiency) as Westbrook he'd average 35.2PPG.
Harden also gets 1 FTA for every 1.9 shots or so. So his free throw attempts per game would be over 13.
Taking that into account, he'd average over 37PPG if he shot as much as Westbrook.

That's with his 11.2 APG, and 8 REB per game.
So the only thing making Westbrook's stats seem more impressive is his 2 extra rebounds per game and the fact that he shoots a lot more.

All things equal, I'd take
37, 11, and 8 on 61 TS% on a team that's 53-25
over
32, 10, and 10 on 55 TS% on a team that's 45-33

It shouldn't even be a debate. It's kind of ridiculous that so many people Westbrook deserves it over Harden.

Triple Doubles are the most overrated "stat" in basketball. It puts a huge emphasis on getting that 10th assist or rebound. Does anyone care if someone gets their 9th assist or rebound? No. But that 10th one, that's some huge accomplishment. Average that 10 instead of that 9 and then we compare you to Oscar Robertson and say you're doing things that have never been seen. Only get 9 and you're doing something that someone else (Harden) is doing in the current year.

 

Actually, it's Get Fuckt.

 

Did you calculate the extra amount of free throw attempts he'd get from
1.) The higher usage rate
2.) The "Star" hype he'd get? (i.e. more "star" calls)?

 

As much as I hate to say it because I just don't like the guy.(I don't really have a reason to not like him either)
LBJ is the MVP.
He has been for the past several seasons. But he gets overlooked because the things he does now are expected.
LBJ and others have been a victim of, "You can't give it to the same player every year."
I guess he'll have to settle for a different MVP award.

 

I'm a very nice guy. I actually like your posts too but I still respect you