How can you still believe in Lillard?

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  1. oldfisherman

    oldfisherman Unicorn Wrangler

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    Did you mean to be so rude?

    Since you know it all, you should know when to shut the f**k up.

    Try being informed instead of being opinionated

    Next time I need an unsolicited and uninformed opinion I will know where to go.

    And thanks for your faulty opinion. I will file it right between “Don’t give a flying f*ck”, and “sucks to be you”.
     
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  2. Portland2014

    Portland2014 Well-Known Member

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    I never said that Westbrook is a good shooter, but still... go ahead with your meaningless raw statistics...
     
  3. Road Ratt

    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    You can't be serious. Damian has been our one shining spot throughout his career as a Blazer. He may have some shooting slumps but if he had as many as you make it sound he wouldn't currently be our best player.

    He isn't an all star because the west is loaded with great point guards and to make the all stars you usually need to be on a winning team which hasn't been the case the last few seasons.

    Your arguments are falling flat dood.
     
  4. Nate

    Nate #itsokaytobewhite #wakandaforever BANNED

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    26.6 ppg
    5.8 ast
    4.8 reb
    .581 TS%
    23.7 PER

    Get fucked.
     
  5. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    LOL, that's fucking hilarious. If you're going to quote a stat, at least try to understand what it means and how it's calculated. BPM is calculated by multiplying AST% by USG%. Westbrook is such an incredible ballhog, and based on his shitty shooting percentages, the most inefficient one in NBA history, so of course his BPM is high. It doesn't mean he's the greatest, it just means he uses possessions at a higher rate than anyone in the history of the NBA. BTW, USG% also includes missed shots and TOVs as used possessions. So, yeah, that's why Westbrook's USG% and BPM are so ridiculously high.

    One thing that gets overlooked in all these video game numbers is the negative records Harden and Westbrook are also setting. They have both completely shattered the NBA single season record for turnovers. Harden set the record last year with 374 TOVs. The previous record was 366 set by Artis Gilmore in 1977-78. This year, Harden is at 444 TOVs and counting and Westbrook is at 424.

    Westbrook is also missing field goals at a rate that has not been seen on a regular basis since the early 1960s. By the end of the season, he will have missed around 1130 shots - a number exceeded only one time each by Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant (who both scored considerably more and shot the ball better).

    And since missed shots and TOVs figure into USG%, Westbrook is about to completely shatter the NBA record for USG%. He came close to setting the record two seasons ago when Durant missed 59 games when he had a USG% of 38.37, second only to Kobe's 38.74 and ahead of Jordan's career high of 38.29. The difference is both those players scored a lot more and did so more efficiently.

    Based on Westbrook's season to date, here's the four highest USG% seasons in NBA history, and their associated scoring averages:

    Russell Westbrook - 2016-17, USG% - 41.7, Scoring Average = 31.8 ppg
    Kobe Bryant - 2005-06, USG% - 38.7, Scoring Average = 35.4 ppg
    Russell Westbrook - 2014-15, USG% - 38.4, Scoring Average = 28.1 ppg
    Michael Jordan - 1986-87, USG% - 38.3, Scoring Average = 37.1 ppg

    This will tempt the Westrook fan boys to point out that by comparing Westbrook to Michael and Kobe I am just reinforcing he is one of the greatest players in the history of the game. Not so. This is not a favorable comparison. Westbrook's ridiculous USG%, number of TOVs and missed shots prove than he's not only the biggest ball hog in NBA history, but also, by a very wide margin, the least efficient. Look at how much lower his scoring averages are than Kobe's and Michael's for comparable usage rates.

    BNM
     
  6. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    I know I'm feeding the fucking troll under the bridge but riddle me this: How in the hell do you say Dame is not a good shooter when he has a way better percentage ACROSS-THE-BOARD than Russell Westbrook whose balls are currently in your throat?
     
  7. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    You could have stopped there. Of course, he's not serious. He's an obvious, blatant troll.

    BNM
     
  8. BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94

    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 AWOL

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    Something, something Russ has a bigger load to carry. (Typical Westbrick response despite OKC having more talent than us).
     
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  9. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Because that's what trolls do. They toss out complete fallacies like they are facts just to get a reaction. He doesn't even believe Dame is a bad shooter. How could he, the numbers prove otherwise and it's not even slightly disputable. He just does this shit to get the attention that's otherwise lacking in his sad, pathetic life.

    BNM
     
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    Now THIS GUY is a Lillard hater. Even I'm offended lol.. Lillard isn't that bad trust me I would know
     
  11. Portland2014

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    Are we really trying to compare a future HOF in Westbrook and a player who's not even an All Star in Lillard?
     
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    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    Come back troll, I have more kids to feed you!
     
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    Answer this: in your opinion, on a championship caliber team, what role Lillard should have?

    Judge with today standards, 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th option?

    Remember that Klay Thompson and Kevin Love are 3rd/4th options on their team
     
  14. stampedehero

    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    Nurk created options for this team. Dame has a losing stretch.-All players get them. He is still a hero because he did not leave when the starting team departed. He has the savior role and blew it a few times. This is Stotts' problem
     
  15. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Finals MVP.

    They are both followers. Lillard is a leader.

    BNM
     
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  16. Road Ratt

    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    Currently, 1st option, duh. Until the Blazers have a player that is clearly better than Damian, he is the first option.

    You lose again. Anymore arguments we can shoot down?
     
  17. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I can't believe we have this bullshit thread after Lillard has 22/9/8 in a win. If that's considered a such a bad game that it's worthy of a Lillard sucks thread it speaks volumes for how great he truly is.

    BNM
     
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    Ha...ha ha... hahahahahahaha
     
  19. Road Ratt

    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    A two page troll? How can you believe in a poster that can't argue his point beyond two pages?!?
     
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    Cippy91 Habitual Line Stepper

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    stop feeding the troll. This guy is getting what he wants every post. Shit gets pages on pages
     
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