<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Mike Wilbon's opinion doesn't mean anymore to me than CB32's.</div>Ouch. Are you going to let that stand CB?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Feb 23 2007, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well if he went on who has the better +/- than it is clearly Wade. 82games.com tells the whole story. Wade +17.3 and Kobe +11.2. The lakers actually won some games without Kobe. The same can't be said about Miami without Wade. Dirk though is in the lead with +18.3. There is your MVP right there.</div> Eh, who cares about those stupid statistics.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Feb 24 2007, 03:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eh, who cares about those stupid statistics.</div>How are they stupid? They are the biggest proof on who has been more important to their team of any stats I know.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cavsrules @ Feb 23 2007, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm gonna have to disagree you with on Wade being better then LeBron. Wade may have a ring, but just look at his team when he did win a ring. And then look at what James had and he still almost got past the best team in the NBA, alone. For me, it's not a tough call because watching James 82 games a season, makes me just say LeBron. James may take some bad jumpers, but he is a much better driver then Wade. Sure Wade is a great slasher, one of the best in the game. You could also say James is terrible at the free throw line, but unlike Wade, he doesn't spend the whole game there.There are gonna be people say that Wade is better then LeBron, and I respect that, but I just hope you guys can respect my pick to James.</div>Shaq was scoring 14PPG in the Finals, and everyone else besides Walker was below season averages. They were against clearly the best team in the league, and they were down 0-2, and 10pts with 5min to go in game 3. Wade came alive, and from there the Heat rolled. Wade scored 40PPG through next 4 games, 2 incredible 4th quarter performances, and just was simply amazing. Wade carried the team in the Finals, and you have to give him huge props whether you think Bron could have done the same or not.I disagree that Bron is a better slahser than Wade, although it is fairly close. But since Bron takes too many ridiculous jumpers (he is shooting a worse FG % from outside 2-3ft area around basket than Wade) he doesn't take advantage of his driving ability nearly as much as Wade.Oh, and Bron takes 9FTA's to Wade's 11FTA's. Condiering wade scores about 3PPG more, it isn't a big enough difference to say Wade is at foul line the whole game where Bron isn't/I definately respect your opinion, but I have to disagree as I fully believe Wade is the better player.
Wade is better than LeBron, not only does he have a ring, but he was SO Clutch ALL season last year. LeBron hasn't been clutch at all yet.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Feb 26 2007, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LOL it's Kobe then Lebron then Wade.</div>Wade has been clearly better than Lebron this year. Lebron doesn't seem to have the interest or whatever but he is not what he was last year for the Cavs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Feb 26 2007, 05:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wade has been clearly better than Lebron this year. Lebron doesn't seem to have the interest or whatever but he is not what he was last year for the Cavs.</div>Just cause he is not having a 30/7/7 year again does not mean he is not better then Wade.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Feb 26 2007, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just cause he is not having a 30/7/7 year again does not mean he is not better then Wade.</div> Wade gets to the basket much easier than Lebron. Lebron settles for jumpers too much and is only shooting 32% from the 3 point line. Give me a break about saying Lebron is better. Not this year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Feb 26 2007, 05:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'> Wade gets to the basket much easier than Lebron. Lebron settles for jumpers too much and is only shooting 32% from the 3 point line. Give me a break about saying Lebron is better. Not this year.</div>W/e you think what you think we can all have are own thoughts. I say Lebron is still better.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Feb 26 2007, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>W/e you think what you think we can all have are own thoughts. I say Lebron is still better.</div>Not according to this thread. http://www.bball-world.net/forum/index.php...mp;#entry297668 I got flamed to death for having my own thoughts.
No you got flmaed to death for acting like a retard and bringing up some of the most ridiculous points. And when disproven, you said stats prove Dirk is better and you're done with the thread.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Feb 23 2007, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PTI=Dumbest show ever</div>PTI is an awesome show and is entertaining.I personally don't agree with that. I think Kobe is possibly the best of all time.D Wade is really good, but I mean... T-Mac, Allen Iverson... I have a laundry list of dudes whose game is more developed than him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Not according to this thread. <span style="color:#004e68">http://www.bball-world.net/forum/index.php...mp;#entry297668</span> I got flamed to death for having my own thoughts.</div>*Sheds a tear*Grow up mavsfan, you know you made that topic to try and prove a point after a couple people confronted you about Kobe being the best player in the league. Instead it backfired and the majority disagreed and now you say I got flamed to death for my thoughts. Cry me a river.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Feb 26 2007, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No you got flmaed to death for acting like a retard and bringing up some of the most ridiculous points. And when disproven, you said stats prove Dirk is better and you're done with the thread.</div>We should go ahead and change the name to the forum to Kobe World. No matter what Kobe does who dares anyone says Dirk is better than him. Even if Dirk is having a career year. Go back to overwhelming other posters with your 10 paragraphs of crap that you spew that they don't feel like reading. My points were valid but were ignored.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Feb 26 2007, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>*Sheds a tear*Grow up mavsfan, you know you made that topic to try and prove a point after a couple people confronted you about Kobe being the best player in the league. Instead it backfired and the majority disagreed and now you say I got flamed to death for my thoughts. Cry me a river.</div>What's new? You take their side. I wasn't crying. I just mentioned that the other posters got out of line. Kobe this and Kobe that. I was looking for good logical argument of Kobe and instead I got responses you're an idiot and Oh God mavsfan you are so stupid. The other people are the ones that need to grow up.
Almost all of you don't know why James settles for Jumpers.We got a moron coach that knows jack sh*t, at least Wade has a good coach, that knows something. Mike Brown is a complete moron.I find it funny, every time Cleveland is on TNT, ESPN, ABC I hear 'Thats a terrible shot' more then any other teams that play. Wonder if the coach is doing anything?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Feb 27 2007, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We should go ahead and change the name to the forum to Kobe World. No matter what Kobe does who dares anyone says Dirk is better than him. Even if Dirk is having a career year. Go back to overwhelming other posters with your 10 paragraphs of crap that you spew that they don't feel like reading. My points were valid but were ignored.</div>You use some shooting numbers and claim that to be the end all reason why player A is better than player B. Watch games and actually analyze after watching them. It became crystal clear that you are a Dirk homer and very biased towards him. It is fine that you are a huge Dirk fan, but be fair and realistic when comparing him to others. You will likely find MAYBE 1-2 other users on this forum, outside of Mavs fans, that agree with Dirk being the best in the league. You should have expected backlash and tons of people trying to dissect your thoughts when you posted that.It isn't just this forum where the majority agrees Kobe is the best player in the world. Go to any non-team specific sites and you will see the majority think Kobe is the best player in the land. He is arguably the best offensive player in the league, a great defender, and clutch as can be. He has 3 rings among other individual accomplishments throughout his 11 year career. Last year he had one of the most amazing, and historically significant seasons we have seen since the '80's when Jordan emerged. He brought a crap team to 7th seed in the West, and 1 game away from beating #2 seed in the tough West. His praise is deserved.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cavsrules @ Feb 27 2007, 01:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Almost all of you don't know why James settles for Jumpers.We got a moron coach that knows jack sh*t, at least Wade has a good coach, that knows something. Mike Brown is a complete moron.I find it funny, every time Cleveland is on TNT, ESPN, ABC I hear 'Thats a terrible shot' more then any other teams that play. Wonder if the coach is doing anything?</div>He didn't settle for jumpers last season nearly as much as this year. Neither did he the 2nd half of the season before with Mike Brown. Mike Brown is not at fault for his shot selection. Hell, he even said yesterday that as long as Bron is going at the rim he is fine (or something along those lines, don't remember actual quote, it was on the Cavs-Heat game).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Feb 27 2007, 02:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He didn't settle for jumpers last season nearly as much as this year. Neither did he the 2nd half of the season before with Mike Brown. Mike Brown is not at fault for his shot selection. Hell, he even said yesterday that as long as Bron is going at the rim he is fine (or something along those lines, don't remember actual quote, it was on the Cavs-Heat game).</div>He didn't, but call it crazy, he clearly coached himself, and played superman for the Cavaliers last season. Of course it isn't ALL Mike's fault, but he for sure as hell gets some of the blame. He can say this and that, but Mike Brown doesn't know nothing. Why are we last in FT? WTF? Is he not making this team work on them? Why is this team taking so many terrible shots? Isn't it the coach's job to make sure the team is on track? If the team doesn't listen, then he needs to get in there face, bench the player, but no, he does absolutely nothing.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DaBridge @ Feb 26 2007, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PTI is an awesome show and is entertaining.I personally don't agree with that. I think Kobe is possibly the best of all time.D Wade is really good, but I mean... T-Mac, Allen Iverson... I have a laundry list of dudes whose game is more developed than him.</div>Huh what are you trying to say confused?
