Game Thread GAME# 82: PELICANS @ BLAZERS - APRIL 12, 2017 - WEDNESDAY, 7:30 (PDT), ESPN & KGW

Wall is for sure on a team by virtue of record and stats...

Curry has better stats than Lillard and is on a 67 win team. He's above Lillard based on past voting standards.

Harden had even better stats than Lillard last year and he missed the team because the rockets were .500.

I don't think Lillard has a shot at getting an all NBA team.

 

Agreed, not this year. Wall and IT took two potential spots. And Derozan prolly gets on as well.

 

And ping pong balls! I'm expecting a few ties here. Same with the CLE pick.

 

That got me thinking so did a little comparison. This is one time the defensive side can be left out since neither plays any.

Player.....Pts.....Ast...Reb....FG%....FT%...3Pt%..A/TO
Lillard.. 27.0... 5.9... 4.9... .444... .895... .370.... 2.27
Curry.... 25.4... 6.6... 4.5... .469... .899.. .412... 2.20

It's amazing how close they really are. Dame's scoring is just a touch higher but one could easily argue Curry has a lot more scorers to defer to on his team. The rest are very close except for 3-pt percentage where Curry has just over a 10% gap between the two players. Then it might come down to wins where Curry dominates. Doubtful the reigning 2-time MVP will fall below Dame in IMO.

 

Its a 4% gap not 10%. You read Curry's FG% as 3P%.

If wins matter, then being the best player on a team matters too. Lillard led his team, Curry didnt.

 

You either have a typo or are really bad at math.

 

It's a 10% difference would be a better way to put it. Curry's 3-pt percentage is 4% points better but almost 11% better in terms of the one percentage versus the other. But thanks to you guys who love to jump on what you think is a mistake and immediately point it out...

 

I'm not following...can you try explaining again?

 

Are you trying to say that the difference in 3P% results in Curry scoring 11% more points per 3-point attempt?

 

Huh. Okay. I've never really seen people compare players shooting percentages in this way.

 

^^^ what @PtldPlatypus said. Sorry if that was confusing. Come by my office sometime....it's a financial/numbers panacea. I could get people really confused.

 

Perhaps here is a better example and why I went this route. If someone is taking a 4% dividend and someone else is taking a 5% dividend, that is only a 1% difference, right? Tell that to the guy who is getting 25% more from his dividend check into his bank account. Does that make sense?

 

It makes sense, but not in this context, especially how you said it ("10% gap between the two players"). Never seen anyone comparing shooting percentages this way.

 

This is usually reserved for actual amounts; I personally haven't seen percentage variance expressed as a percent; usually those are expressed in percentage point difference. Side Note: I live in retail math 8 hours a day for my grown up job.

 

Not intuitive meaning bad math. You typically never do multiplication or division math on percentages.

 

I'd put Durant ahead of Paul George. He has better numbers and has done it on the best team in the league.

The center position is totally up in the air. I think Gobert will be in the running for DPOY, but I don't think his offensive numbers are good enough for 1st team all NBA: 14.1/12.8/2.7, PER = 23.4.

Cousins and KAT have the best stats of the centers, but neither has helped their team win much:

Boogie: 27.0/11.1/1.3 with 4.6 AST/G, PER = 23.4. Combined record in SAC and NOP = 30-42.
KAT: 25.1/12.2/1.3, PER = 25.8, record = 31-49 (that will hurt his chances)

Don't sleep on Whiteside, he gives you defense close to Gobert, but slightly better offense and rebounding: 16.9/14.1/2.1, PER = 22.4. Plus, the way MIA turned their season around after losing Wade and Bosch is a nice feel good story. Voters eat that shit up.

To me, that means that DeAndre Jordan doesn't deserve to be all NBA. Hell, I don't think any of the Clipper deserve to be. They've struggled to get a top 4 seed in the West and Jordan's numbers just aren't that impressive (and numbers matter to voters): 12.6/13.7/1.6, PER = 21.1.

I think the three that will make it are Cousins, Whiteside and Gobert, possibly in that order, possibly not. Cousins has constantly been in the media and has the highest scoring average, So, that will get him the votes he needs. Too bad, I think KAT has actually had a better season, but will probably get overlooked.

BNM