Did Pat Connaughton make his case for being one of the untouchables?

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  1. tester551

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    My vote would be to move both. I think it's easier to replace what Crabbe brings to the team, as Turner is an important safety valve... but both need to go.
     
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    Pat Connaughton with another great game!
     
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    Goodbye Pat. We hardly knew ya.
     
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    Good on ya, Pat, for making it just a touch easier to trade you.
     
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    I think this makes it easier to trade Crabbe. Pat is a great shooter from 3, but brings a lot more to the table at 1/20th the cost
     
    tester551, Apr 12, 2017
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    He looked like a different player this last couple of days. Totally different from the other times we have seen him.
     
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    He is playing against other 3rd stringers...
     
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    Lamarcus Aldridge and Kawhi Leonard are third stringers?!
     
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    Jesus Christ.
     
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    Is there a way we can rid ourselves of Turner Salary this off season? There was a rule in the Association where we could swallow one bad contract. is this still in place?
     
    joeBlazers, Apr 13, 2017
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    Not against SA
     
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    It's the amnesty clause, I believe you're referring to. Golden Boy, Brandon Roy forced us to use that on him. But hey, at least according to his agent, he could finally be at peace.
     
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    I believe that the CBA they negotiated recently, starting next year, does not include the amnesty clause. I wish it did, but I wouldn't use it on a player like Crabbe or Turner, they're actually tradeable.
     
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    I wouldnt trade Pat for Kawhi Leonard. He's amazing. Gonna be an All Star.
    This thread is hilarious.
     
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    Pat has been playing good D in all the minutes he got this year. Last couple of games gave him enough time to get comfortable offensively. He can play, but it probably won't be here.

    Layman? He's already better than Chandler Parsons.
     
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    Crabbe fits the team, Turner doesn't - it's as simple as that, IMO. I just don't see Turner as a good Western Conference player. Hopefully he proves me wrong against GSW!

    Turner is a moderately better Aminu. Turner might be more versatile than Crabbe, but versatility only matters if you're above average across several aspects of the game - Turner is only above average on defense. I get what you're saying about needing two players to replace Turner vs one to replace Crabbe - but I still think we'd be a better team by doing so. I don't like Turner running point - he's only slightly better at it than CJ was. Shabazz might not set up guys quite as well but he scores a lot better - and I think the point differential between Bazz's scoring and Turner's assists would favor Bazz.

    Anyway, we've both made up our minds as to who the least needed player is, and we both agree that ideally both would be traded.
     
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    Untouchable? Not even close.

    Worth keeping at a reasonable price? Absolutely.
     
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    Hyperbole aside, I'm wondering if Patty made a case for an increased role next season.
     
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    i would use it on Leonard in a heartbeat.
     
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    Why do you think it's such a stretch for Pat to replace Crabbe?

    Pat is shooting 0.52 on 3s (granted on a relative small sample size - 33 attempts).

    For a more equitable comparison, in college Pat shot 0.386 (over 4 years) while Allen shot 0.382 (over his 3 years) from 3.

    When you look at advanced numbers, Pat is comparable or better across the board.
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