Game Thread PLAYOFFS: ROUND 1, GAME 1: BLAZERS @ WARRIORS - 4/16/17, SUNDAY, 12:30 PM (PDT), ABC

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Predict the outcome of this series

Poll closed Apr 16, 2017.

  1. Warriors in 4

    6 vote(s)
    8.5%

  2. Warriors in 5

    18 vote(s)
    25.4%

  3. Warriors in 6

    7 vote(s)
    9.9%

  4. Warriors in 7

    2 vote(s)
    2.8%

  5. Blazers in 4

    3 vote(s)
    4.2%

  6. Blazers in 5

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  7. Blazers in 6

    26 vote(s)
    36.6%

  8. Blazers in 7

    9 vote(s)
    12.7%
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  1. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Game 3 - Pump up the home crowd and don't say he's playing until right before tip off (but do it legally so we don't have a dickhead Doc Rivers moment)
     
    Strenuus, Apr 16, 2017
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Yeah you wouldn't know. Your busy drooling over the fakers
     
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    I didn't say the Blazers are generally better without him. I said I'm skeptical that he makes a sizable difference in the gap between the two teams. I don't think foul-prone bigs are bailed out by "playoff physicality." At least, I certainly wouldn't be going in with that as the base expectation--if it happened, great.

    Overall, people are acting like A. Nurkic is one of the best players in the NBA and B. the Warriors are destroyed by big men. Both implications are exaggerated. Nurkic is currently a good player with an upside to be very good. The Warriors are decent at defending big men (Pachulia is not a rim protector, but he's a solid on-ball defender, McGee is prone to silly mistakes but has also played solid defense for the Warriors and Green, despite his size, has always played "up"--positionally--against big men). This isn't some gigantic flaw that Nurkic is tailor-made to exploit. He'd provide some benefits, but also some weaknesses (which are going unsaid, in the narrative that Nurkic turns the entire series). Just like any other good non-star player on a major underdog team.
     
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    Wow. Another "winner" post by you. You ARE working Wednesday, right? Lets hope so.....
     
    Dougnsalem, Apr 16, 2017
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    I don't think Portland wins this series, didn't from the start. I said 5 games out of pure hope they don't close out in Portland.
    However Nurk has proven even against great defensive teams he opens the court up for Lillard/CJ offensively, and defends the rim.
    I'm not sure with how well CJ/Lillard played if he really would have helped that much offensively.
    But he certainly helps when they're struggling on that end. Which they didn't tonight.
    I however think Portland would have struggled more defensively in the pick and roll than they did today if Nurk had played.
    As Portland couldn't switch like they did tonight.
     
    H.C., Apr 16, 2017
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    I don't think Green can cover Nurk either one-on-one on the block or on the P&R. Therefore, not only is he (or McGee) now unable to contain Nurk (if we "feed" him), but he's also not going to be able to help out on either offensive boards or those blocks you saw. And Dame's shown he's more prone to pass to Nurk in traffic than he is to Hark or Noah (as you saw today in a few epic blocks).

    There's a reason the main teams GSW loses to teams with scoring bigs like SAS, SAC (with Boogie), MIN (with KAT), Grizz (Gasol) and Nuggets (Jokic). Even if they focus on the big, that leaves the rest of the team open to getting picked apart by the shooters. Today, a) our shooters aside from CJ and Dame weren't on, and b) they didn't have to respect the big, so you could switch with impunity, help wherever needed, and pick up big rebounds. And it was still tied after 3.
     
    BrianFromWA, Apr 16, 2017
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    Nurk comes back and it causes all sorts of trouble for Golden state. With Nurkic, golden state won't be able to hedge dame and CJ the way they did in the second half. They would get wrecked on the pick and roll. It would also force them to play zaza instead of going small at center with draymond, aka their best lineup.

    But of course any fan of the game would know this. Unless you're HCP. Literally watches a game for a living and still doesn't know what the hell hes looking at.
     
    Scalma, Apr 16, 2017
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    Reading this damn thread, just ridiculous to think Nurk would have not made any difference. We had no one to drag their bigs out of the paint and we either jacked shit shots or played one on four in the paint. Made shots or not, poor shot selection is a shit shot.
     
    DaLincolnJones, Apr 16, 2017
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    I enjoyed this game for a first round road game being the underdog....played with them for 3 qtrs...guys played great defense but seemed gassed in the fourth trying to get back in it......Vonleh was hammered in the post all night...he had 3 guys on him down there and he still tried to pull down boards....Chief had a bad offensive game...one of his worst..still good things to take from this series!
     
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    We would not have made the playoffs, without Nurkic. Can everyone agree on that??? We are a tougher team when he plays. There is no argument against that. Other options-Butters???????
     
    Dougnsalem, Apr 16, 2017
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    Awesome post. Just had to say.....
     
    Dougnsalem, Apr 16, 2017
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    Nurk also would've erased some of Curry's layups like Green did to Lillard. With Nurk, we would've won today. Definitely.
     
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    Agree 100%. I have to wonder how much more confidence he would have given our bench players too. It's already a proven fact that when he plays, the whole team shoots better. We've got this. Our guys can shock everyone. Beat GS, and we can beat ANYONE!
     
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    Although it'll be tough when we play the spurs and Dame and CJ have to sit for Patty Ice and Shabazzle-Dazzle.
     
    BrianFromWA, Apr 16, 2017
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    CJ was getting off the same shots and was missing. His handle was also looser in the 2nd half, "FAMS".
     
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    Nurk would've made all the difference.
     
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    Pat should have played more.

    Not sure why Stotts wasn't looking for a 3rd scorer tonight.
     
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    Loved when he stepped in and took the charge from Curry, drawing a foul and negating the basket.

    If every player did that once a game we'd win most of the time. :cheers:
     
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    I totally enjoyed watching this game. It was so fun and exciting! Honestly, the refs called a fair game too. What really did it for me was the broadcast team. Impartial announcers, and the video was TOP NOTCH. Excellent!
     
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    Fantastic performance by the Blazers. Much more competitive than I expected them to be without Nurkic.
     
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