In a way all are ancestors are basically illegal immigrants if they aren't indian. If you want to get technical about it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Make them mow lawns and pick oranges for 50 cents an hour and make them eat sh*t and drink piss for lunch</div> Illegal or not, that's a human being. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As for them taking jobs that we dont want. Completely false. There are hundreds of homeless people roaming the streets of Detroit that would gladly catch the sh#t out of a cow's ass with his bare hands for pennies.</div>I don't seem to recall many people wanting to take low end jobs. Yes there are homeless people who are willing to, and they are just like those illegals in the same manner. Scraping by, they are in the same boat.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Mar 1 2007, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>First of all you can go F*ck yourself. Although some Americans are dumb and fat not all of us are lazy. And by the way you are an idiot, you say most immigrants pay taxes. Yes they do, THE LEGAL ONES. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DON't PAY TAXES BECAUSE THEY AREN'T REGISTERED AMERICAN CITIZENS. They also don't register for the armed services so if there ever is a draft for the war I can be callled to war and have my life put on the line while Jose Cheapskate is making $15 an hour landscaping, not paying taxes, and laughing all the way to the bank. And I'm being called ignorant and idiotic for saying F*ck illegal immigrants? I'm sick of this political correct Anti-everything bullsh** that is going on in this country. People need to wake up and say what's on their mind.</div>How about you go f*ck yourself instead. You might be the dumbest piece of sh*t ive evr seen on this planet. I already apologized fro saying teh racist sh*t about Americans but thats not teh issue at play. You are saying that most illegal immigrants dont pay taxes because they cant register and stuff, however you dont even know how it works. If your receive a salary, you can infact pay your taxes if you submit some sh*t to teh government, so lets get that straight. Furthermore even teh ones that dont pay taxes have it worse than most Americans due to their limited income. Often you will see 9 Mexicans cramped into one apartment because they can not afford a place to live alone. Your family might be struggling and for that im sorry, however that does not mean you have it worse than any illegal immighrant. You live in a house, have a car and get an education , however most immigranst can not afford this. You also say that f*ck them cause their not from America, but all I have to say is that are they not people, are they not humans. Also your ancesters also came here as immigranst and were often chastised so you shoudl not be talking unless you ara a native american which you are not. You certainly are a racist pice of sh*t and dont seem to care about others. I dont give a f*ck what you think of illegal immigrants because honestly they are a large part of thsi country's economy. Good luck with all ure troubles and hope ure dad finds a job. (Im not an ass like you who hates people)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Mar 1 2007, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who is being racist?</div>ah you. Also to add to my point, most immigranst can not buy land and housing and sh*t cause they are not legal and do not have teh proper paperwork neccesary to obatin such things, so dont say that they are able to buy land and cars
Welcome to the Jungle do you feel the same way about cubans or other who come here illegally that have risked their lives to come for freedom. I mean seriously I'm an American and I can see were your coming from but it's not as easy as you think to come here legally. I don't think anyone should be called an illegal because no human bein should be illegal.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dmoney @ Mar 1 2007, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Welcome to the Jungle do you feel the same way about cubans or other who come here illegally that have risked their lives to come for freedom. I mean seriously I'm an American and I can see were your coming from but it's not as easy as you think to come here legally. I don't think anyone should be called an illegal because no human bein should be illegal.</div>yeah, infact to coem here leagally you have to be either extremely lucky or have a lot of money cause the US government does not give many residencies to people who live outside the US. I was a fortunate one because they saw that if we stayed there(colombia) we woudl have been killed by guerrilas so they awarded us a residency thing, had it been any other way my family woudl be oen of thsoe f*cking immigranst ure talking about
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Mar 1 2007, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'> Illegal or not, that's a human being.</div>It was an exaggeration to the point that they should be living in crappy conditions. Its still obviously better than what they were doing back home."I don't seem to recall many people wanting to take low end jobs. Yes there are homeless people who are willing to, and they are just like those illegals in the same manner. Scraping by, they are in the same boat."Its just a false statement. Homeless people were legally born here and at one time or another have paid taxes. That makes them more deserving than the illegals. (sorry, havent quite figured out how to separate the quotes yet)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Its just a false statement. Homeless people were legally born here and at one time or another have paid taxes. That makes them more deserving than the illegals. (sorry, havent quite figured out how to separate the quotes yet)</div>So are you telling me illegals are preventing the legal homeless from getting jobs? Because I really doubt they are, employers aren't going to look at a legal homeless person and an illegal, then choose the illegal. There's pride among people and I bet to a degree, people won't take a job because of it's pay or job requirement. It's not a false statement, it's a reality. Ask people if they are willing to work a low end job. The most likely answer is no. Also, considering illegals are most likely homeless. They are basically in the same boat as I stated because they are working sh*t jobs for sh*t money. A homeless person can't get a good job or pay, just like an illegal.
I'm sorry if I'm offending everyone but I'm sick and tired of this. I am in no way being racist. And for those of you illegal immigration apologists...Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact; has committed a federal crime.Has anyone brought up this? It's a felony? Do you guys have sympathy for drug dealers? sex offenders? Why illegal immigrants? Yeah I feel bad for them because their country sucks that they're coming from but I'm sick and tired of people backing illegal immigrants. They come in here in huge numbers, over populate our already overpopulated nation. And you guys say they crowd in low housing areas and this and that. What about people who are already here that work crappy jobs and that's the only thing they can afford? What about the people already in the low rent areas that can only live in those houses but it's being taken up by 300 foreign people that just ran over the border? And TMG keep calling me a dumb piece of sh*t. How's this for dumb? You think that illegal immigrants don't effect the economy?"According to a study in 1996 of the costs of illegal immigration by Rice Univ. economist, Dr. Donald Huddle, illegal aliens were displacing roughly 730,000 American workers every year, at a cost of about $4.3 billion a year, and the supply of cheap labor depresses the wages and working conditions of the working poor. The approximate doubling of the illegal alien population since the time of that estimate means that the number of jobs lost to American workers and the costs of displacement would also likely have more than doubled."There are 8.7 illegal immigrants in this country and they keep coming in year after year after year. I'm sorry, I'm not stepping down on my illegal immigration stance. Also, I'm not going to feel bad for people who are just coming here illegally when we have millions in this country ALREADY that need our help. We're always trying to do way to much in America yet we have millions in this country that need help. Also, do you not realize that half of these illegal immigrants have false identities that can get them benefits illegally like welfare assistance, healthcare, and things of that sort. We can't even provide that stuff for people in our country and people are getting it illegally. Also if they have U.S. born children they get more benefits to help them out. And people can enter this country legally. There are millions of people who are waiting to be legally registered into this country but they chose not too. I also haven't heard one of you apologists discuss the fact that illegall citizens don't have to register for the armed services. Thousands of people who defend this country in Iraq die on a daily basis while people who come here illegally probably don't even know what the F*ck the Iraq war is.
sry if I offended, but you attacked illegal immigrnats out of nowhere and that really hit me cause most of my family were illegal immigranst at one point or another. I am not saying that illegal immigranst are the greatest thing that happened to thsi country, but I am saying that they are a large part of thsi country and do contribute to the economy and the country overall.They may missplace many, but they also do teh jobs that most americans woudl never take. YOu also say that illegal immigranst are commiting a crime, and im not saying their not, but you have to understand that this varies greatly from all teh other crimes your listing. A drug dealer makes a profit by selling crack to little inncoent kids, however immigranst work theri as*'s off to make a living. However they are often not allowed to because of all eth discrimination that goes on. Also teh majority of immigranst coem here with the belief that everything here for them will be much better than in their own country. But they do not realize how tough they really have it, which manmy times is worse than what tehy had to face back home. Finally dont say that other countries are sh*t cause that is teh common mistake that most Americans make. We are always ttaught from a small age that this is teh best country. However they fail to mention that other countries can offer many things that the US, which is a great country, can not
We're clearly at opposites of the spectrum tmg and I'll take fault in my argument being a little misconscrewed. I kinda tied in illegal immigraiton along with outsourcing. My dad lost 4 jobs in the past year due to outsourcing which is different than immigration but along the same lines.