Politics In Trump’s America, Rape Is a Preexisting Condition

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    An amendment in the GOP health-care-reform bill will allow states to deny coverage for preexisting conditions, including sexual assault.

    Pre-Obamacare rape survivors who sought treatment for their injuries could be denied health care later on. Under Obamacare, preexisting conditions were guaranteed to receive coverage — among them, sexual assault. The American Health Care Act is going to change that.

    The new MacArthur-Meadows Amendment will allow states to discriminate based on medical history, reportedly without addressing the subsequent high cost of health care for millions of Americans.

    In addition to rape, postpartum depression, Cesarean sections, and surviving domestic violence are all considered preexisting conditions. Companies can also deny coverage for gynecological services and mammograms.

    http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/05/under-new-healthcare-bill-rape-is-a-pre-existing-condition.html
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It's not their fault they weren't born with penises.
     
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    Why wouldn't it be? Persons who have been raped will likely need more medical and psychological/psychiatric care in the future?
     
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    The whole system is a joke. Single payer or back to the old way. Someone mentioned a one month old baby dying after a million dollars in medical care. How is that even possible? I know a million bucks ain't what it used to be but still.

    I'm not sure what to do right now about my knee I hurt at work a year ago. The "doctor" at the urgent care said sprained ligaments and I needed to go to physical therapy immediately.

    I did, it got slightly better and they released me from care.

    A year later the pain and stiffness comes and goes like it just happened. I will bet good money my meniscus is fucked up. You can't see it in an xray and there isn't any blood flow to it from what I read so it will never heal.

    Do I reopen an old workman's comp claim? Sue them for not getting me an MRI. I told them I landed straight down on my knee and it popped.

    I'm probably walking around bone on bone.

    Our system is stupid. They probably planned to milk my therapy knowing it wouldn't fix it.

    Oh, and the other doctor that released me from therapy said he'd have prescribed rest in the first place and pretty much intimated they were milking my claim.

    The therapist looked like I ran over his dog when I told him the other doctor released me early
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    What is it, day 101?

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    Weren't people ragging on Trump because he failed the first time?
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I had the TV turned off.

    I just turned it on to watch the crybabies in action.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Trump basically hitting the delete button on all things Obama.

    Hopefully he'll delete the wars and the debt, too.
     
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    Geez!
    :smiley-pat:

    It is that sort of mind set the screwed up the system.
     
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    Yes sir! Now that is an area Congress could do some fixing. Leave the fucking insurance business to the people that design a product and sell it.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Looking beyond the spin.

    http://www.cbpp.org/research/health...guts-protections-for-people-with-pre-existing

    Under the amendment, states could waive both the ACA’s standards for what health benefits insurance plans must offer and its prohibition on charging people more based on their medical history. Supposedly, the latter waiver would only affect people who do not maintain continuous health coverage. ​

    So it's up to the states to opt out (few will), and it incentivizes people to stay insured (instead of, with ObamaCare, just paying the fine/tax).
     
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    Congress is not a body to do system design work, it is not intended to be. System design is never a democratic process. When done well, the system designed will meet the requirements that justify the need for the system.

    As the representatives of the electorate, Congress would be a body able to accept or reject a system design. Ideally, they would specify the requirement, or add additional requirements as needed. Ideally they never would attempt to do system design, as this is never successfully done by votes, it must be lead by an architect who understand principle concepts of the system and the requirements. An architect is not concerned with pleasing an electorate.

    As and electorate, we have none of the above going for us.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Good job Trump voters! Too bad that nose you cut off is a pre-existing condition.

    barfo
     
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    You know barf, I can't really tell what you are hating in this post.

    Trump?
    Voter?
    Noses?
    Preexisting conditions?
    Self?
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Too bad, so SAD!

    But here is the Dick and Jane version: Trump voters voted against their own best interests.

    barfo
     
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    This is literally the 61st time they've done this...
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    A tad bit early to do a touchdown dance isn't it? It still has to pass the Senate and that's a tougher row to hoe. Just sayin'.........
     
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    I'm not the one making a big deal over the 100 days thing. Just pointing out that day 101 through day 2920 are just as important.
     
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    Trump put the burden on the republicans to REPLACE ObamaCare. They've only voted to just repeal it 60 times.
     
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